Thomas de Groot wrote:
> My own preference would be (but that's just my 2 cents):
> 
> - open a new thread in irtc.stills (or irtc.general? that ng doesn't seem to 
> be so alive...)
> - post a call for answers in povray.general, povray.international, and on 
> the news.lightning-generator.org/povray.general (the french-speaking pov-ray 
> forum)
Also as these newsgroups are not the official site for discussion for 
the IRTC could someone post a couple of messages on the official mailing 
lists? http://www.irtc.org/mlists.html

(I'd post but as I've never submitted an entry....)

Seeing as you've just shown your strawberry on the French fora, I'd say 
you were an ideal candidate for pestering them :-)

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Thomas de Groot wrote:

> - post a call for answers in povray.general, povray.international, and on 
> the news.lightning-generator.org/povray.general (the french-speaking pov-ray 
> forum)
> - ask people to give comments, voice concern, give suggestions
> - ask them to give their relation to IRTC (winners, submitters, browsers), 
> although this would not be of prime importance in my view.
> - after a suitable period of time, somebody could bundle all this in one 
> message and send it petition-like to Chris Cason, with a copy to the IRTC 
> admin.
> 
> To tell the truth, Hildur, I believe you have voiced very effectively the 
> concerns of a lot of people here. You are quite good at it, I think.
> 
Well, I would feel delinquent if I did not voice my concern here also. 
Posting as a response to you, Thomas, because you have put so much good 
will and good energy into this community of late.

I admit that the IRTC has not been a focus for me personally, for some 
time, but I would certainly would be sad to see it expire.

It has some unique and venerable characteristics.  For one, the voting 
system, with its pragmatic attempt to quantify factors for appreciating 
a raytracing.  Two, it's topic system...it's kinda nerdy, which is just 
how we like it.  There is a real comfort level to it which has lead to 
some wonderful moments, creatively, over it's history. Three, the 
patheon of talent that continues to show up year after year and mix, 
good naturedly with the newcomers.  Four, it's international scope, and 
potential for fometing goodwill.  Afterall, imagemaking is a very 
intellectually and emotionally revealing enterprise.

I would like, possibly, to go back through the archives of entries and 
just revisit some of the riches that are to be found there.

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I think that whatever we can say from now on concerning the ITRC and its
managers, we won't have neither a quick solution for the competition, nor
an quick answer to our question "what is going on?". It seems obvious to me
that the concerned people are aware of the situation and of our concern. So,
it is useless harrassing them any more and feeding the polemics. They know
we are wondering and that some of us are likely and ready to
help/participate/take the lead if necessary to continue the competition,
whatever the form it will take.

For now, I can propose an idea that came up to my mind. The current periodis
now too much out of date. The next 'offical topic' will come for the next
period (March/April). This may be considered as too long by some of us
here.

So why not quickly set up a pseudo-competition here, discuss a 'simple'
topic, for the rest of the current period, ie Jan/Feb, with end-Feb as dead
line? No real evaluation with anonymous notation and ranking, just an
appreciation by people here. For me this can motivate people and keep us in
the 'competition mood' and keep it warm, until someting official is decided.

    Bruno

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"Bruno Cabasson" <bru### [at] alcatelaleniaspacefr> wrote:
>
> So why not quickly set up a pseudo-competition here, discuss a 'simple'
> topic, for the rest of the current period, ie Jan/Feb, with end-Feb as dead
> line? No real evaluation with anonymous notation and ranking, just an
> appreciation by people here. For me this can motivate people and keep us in
> the 'competition mood' and keep it warm, until someting official is decided.
>
>     Bruno

That sounds like a good idea for Povers. Shame for the users of others who

wish that I had the time to play :-(

Stephen

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"Verm" <pov### [at] thirteeendynucom> schreef in bericht 
news:45b72983$1@news.povray.org...
> Seeing as you've just shown your strawberry on the French fora, I'd say 
> you were an ideal candidate for pestering them :-)

Oh dear! Already notorious??   :-)

Thomas

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"Stephen" <mcavoys_AT_aolDOT.com> wrote:
> "Bruno Cabasson" <bru### [at] alcatelaleniaspacefr> wrote:
> >
> > So why not quickly set up a pseudo-competition here, discuss a 'simple'
> > topic, for the rest of the current period, ie Jan/Feb, with end-Feb as dead
> > line? No real evaluation with anonymous notation and ranking, just an
> > appreciation by people here. For me this can motivate people and keep us in
> > the 'competition mood' and keep it warm, until someting official is decided.
> >


Then people can come up with suggestions to a pseudo IRTC topic.

Hildur

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"Bruno Cabasson" <bru### [at] alcatelaleniaspacefr> schreef in bericht 
news:web.45b74f8ddc71f6c4f5fba6ef0@news.povray.org...
>
> So why not quickly set up a pseudo-competition here, discuss a 'simple'
> topic, for the rest of the current period, ie Jan/Feb, with end-Feb as 
> dead
> line? No real evaluation with anonymous notation and ranking, just an
> appreciation by people here. For me this can motivate people and keep us 
> in
> the 'competition mood' and keep it warm, until someting official is 
> decided.
>

That seems a good idea to me, although, like Stephen wrote, this only will 
concern povers. Cannot be helped.

As a 'lame' topic, I propose:  "This is NOT a checkered plane". You are 
allowed to shoot or booh me down!  :-)

Thomas

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Hm. At http://www.povray.org/wishlist.html we can read: "..a hard disk. We
need it for the POV-Ray web server (which also hosts irtc.org) so that we
can keep a full backup of the file system online." And they (oh, very-very
good guys from POV-team ;) ) reciving new hard disk. May be - it is
exclamation of IRTC problem?  Some like "data-migration problem"

P.S. Or, famous "problem 2007"

P.P.S. Poor-poor IRTC. It was very good project.

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I have to say; I've never known this group so alive. It just goes to show 
how much we CARE.

    Later,

  ~Steve~

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"Hildur K." <hil### [at] 3dcafemailevery1net> wrote:
> Has a new topic been announced yet for the stills round?
> Just wondering.
>
> Hildur

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