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From: Renderdog
Subject: Old Technology...The Highwheeler
Date: 17 Apr 2003 10:30:04
Message: <web.3e9eb91dd8f147e27ba9929f0@news.povray.org>
A good image and excellent model. The metal parts of the bike look really
good.

POV-Ray could use some better anti-aliasing options. I believe people are
resorting to rendering an image very large and re-sampling it down using a
Gaussian blur to get rid of this type of aliasing. However the aliasing
isn't really a distraction here.

I think the finishes are excellent, but the textures could do with some more
dirt and grime variation layered on top, and possibly some isosurfaces to
break up the smoothness. Good lighting; it might be nice to have an area
light for a more realistic soft shadow, but it would be a small effect. The
overall scene has a nice composition and a well-chosen perspective.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: Old Technology...The Highwheeler
Date: 18 Apr 2003 12:49:43
Message: <3ea02ca7$1@news.povray.org>
This picture shows an old technology as if new and so invites the viewer 
to experience it in its own time. The setting gives a pleasing display; 
it neither emphasizes or contradicts its place in time.  All the 
elements of the picture are assembled into a unified whole with equal 
attention afforded to the background and the main subject. 
Particularily effective use is made of the reflection in the window to 
suggest a wider sense of place than the framing of the picture would 
otherwise show.


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From: Hildur K 
Subject: Re: Old Technology...The Highwheeler
Date: 19 Apr 2003 00:10:03
Message: <web.3ea0caa744935936bb024fa0@news.povray.org>
Renderdog wrote:
>A good image and excellent model. The metal parts of the bike look really
>good.

Thank you.
I have been following your diskussion on this newsgroup and I like to say
that I appreciate that you give so much time and energy to other peoples
work. This is invaluable for people like me who are fairly new to this
amazing world of raytracing.
This is only my second submission to the IRTC and I never dreamed I would go
so far! This encourages me to post many more.
Most time was spent on the model, figuring out how the parts were assembled
and how to avoid too much simplification. This is probably the most

not to mention the dread that other people get to see my work, and that
alone encouraged me to work extra hard and be more precise.

>POV-Ray could use some better anti-aliasing options. I believe people are
>resorting to rendering an image very large and re-sampling it down using a
>Gaussian blur to get rid of this type of aliasing. However the aliasing
>isn't really a distraction here.

Thanks for the tip. I spent a lot of time trying to eliminiate those
bandings.
>
>I think the finishes are excellent, but the textures could do with some more
>dirt and grime variation layered on top, and possibly some isosurfaces to
>break up the smoothness. Good lighting; it might be nice to have an area
>light for a more realistic soft shadow, but it would be a small effect. The
>overall scene has a nice composition and a well-chosen perspective.
>
I spent a lot of time on the textures, and I learned a lot in the process,
but it just took sooooo long and finally I ran out of time. But in my next
submission there will be dirt, that is a promise.

determined to post at least one submission in every competition for the
time being, I know the time will come I have to pull myself together and
try to understand how they can be turned into useful objects. Isosurfaces
render really great, but it all takes time...
But thanks for your time and enthusiasm. Maybe I start joining your
discussions now that I feel more confident.....


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From: Hildur K 
Subject: Re: Old Technology...The Highwheeler
Date: 19 Apr 2003 00:40:09
Message: <web.3ea0d25a44935936bb024fa0@news.povray.org>
Jim Charter wrote:
>This picture shows an old technology as if new and so invites the viewer
>to experience it in its own time. The setting gives a pleasing display;
>it neither emphasizes or contradicts its place in time.  All the
>elements of the picture are assembled into a unified whole with equal
>attention afforded to the background and the main subject.
>Particularily effective use is made of the reflection in the window to
>suggest a wider sense of place than the framing of the picture would
>otherwise show.
>
What are you? A mind reader? These were my exact thoughts while I was
preparing to make the model.



suitable bitmaps to use for silhouettes so I dropped it.
I deliberately picked a barber shop to give a hint about the mainstream

discernible in the scene. It is difficult to find the balance in a scene,
showing too much can be distracting, or too little and missing the point,
both can equally be a problem. The scene ended up being very simple as I
focused on the bike. If I took the camera too far away, the small details
would be lost, if I went too close, the environment would be lost. An
obvious solution was to use a window reflection to give a bigger picture.
I want to thank you for your time and nice words. You guys give people
confidence to work on even bigger and better scenes.  Thank you.


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