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I just read again carefully milco2006's thread above, about not being able
to vote because he had not entered an image in previous rounds. I went to
the TC-RTC rules and read those carefully again.
After pondering this awhile, I believe there is a problem here. Suppose that
in the next round all entries are images by first-time submitters. According
to the rules, they would not be able to vote during that round. Only members
having submitted in previous rounds (but not in the discussed one) would be
able to vote. This seems very unfair to me. IMO, as soon as you submit an
image, you should be able to vote for that particular round. Only if you
have not submitted for three successive rounds, you should be excluded from
voting/rating. However, voting rights should then be granted again as soon
as you submit an image again.
The text of the rules should therefore be (maybe): "...a member is allowed
to rate pictures only if he has uploaded an entry in one of the last three
competitions, including the current one."
Am I understanding this correctly or am I daft?
Thomas
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On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:02:39 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet>
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>Am I understanding this correctly or am I daft?
I think that you understand it correctly and I think that it is more of a bug
than a mistake. It surely cannot be meant. I entered the animation challenge and
find that I cannot vote even if someone else enters :)
BTW being correct does not mean that you are not daft ;-)
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht
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> On Wed, 23 Jul 2008 15:02:39 +0200, "Thomas de Groot"
> <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Am I understanding this correctly or am I daft?
>
> I think that you understand it correctly and I think that it is more of a
> bug
> than a mistake. It surely cannot be meant. I entered the animation
> challenge and
> find that I cannot vote even if someone else enters :)
hmm, yes. That is what I thought too.
>
> BTW being correct does not mean that you are not daft ;-)
Oh, I do agree! Especially when the sun is shinning on my head. ;-)
Thomas
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On Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:55:39 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet>
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>hmm, yes. That is what I thought too.
It must be a bug it cannot be by design. Can it?
>>
>> BTW being correct does not mean that you are not daft ;-)
>
>Oh, I do agree! Especially when the sun is shinning on my head. ;-)
>
Dyslexia strikes again, I meant deft ;)
Definition: I'm deaf in this yin but not deaf in this one <groan>
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht
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>>>>
>>> BTW being correct does not mean that you are not daft ;-)
>>
>>Oh, I do agree! Especially when the sun is shinning on my head. ;-)
>>
>
> Dyslexia strikes again, I meant deft ;)
LOL
>
> Definition: I'm deaf in this yin but not deaf in this one <groan>
Ouch! nevertheless, I like that one :-)
Thomas
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet> wrote in message
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> Am I understanding this correctly or am I daft?
Hehe, you're not daft Thomas, far from it. :) You are perfectly correct of
course, and I have to again say that I didn't like that particular rule
myself. It was a way to try and get entrants to enter at another time,
rather than just enter once and then disappear never to be seen again. It
was also a way to stop vote rigging as there were a few who created extra
accounts. Anyway, I've now addressed this and now ALL members can vote
whether or not they have entered or will never enter. The rules have been
amended to reflect this, and additionally, I've also added that any member
can enter as many times as they want as long as it's a 'different' take on
the subject. This of course also applies to animations.
This will be stated in the next newsletter, which will be soon.
~Steve~
>
> Thomas
>
>
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:38:53 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet>
wrote:
>> Definition: I'm deaf in this yin but not deaf in this one <groan>
>
>Ouch! nevertheless, I like that one :-)
An old Glasgow saying :)
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:50:30 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dot com> wrote:
>Anyway, I've now addressed this and now ALL members can vote
>whether or not they have entered or will never enter. The rules have been
>amended to reflect this, and additionally, I've also added that any member
>can enter as many times as they want as long as it's a 'different' take on
>the subject. This of course also applies to animations.
Now we are a club where all the members have voting rights. I like this idea. As
long as it is not abused it should work very well. In the IRTC I often wished
that I could vote and comment but since I seldom entered I could not. Nice one
Steve.
BTW in the stills challenge Ian MacKay's image is not shown.
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 09:50:30 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dot com> wrote:
>
>>Anyway, I've now addressed this and now ALL members can vote
>>whether or not they have entered or will never enter. The rules have been
>>amended to reflect this, and additionally, I've also added that any member
>>can enter as many times as they want as long as it's a 'different' take on
>>the subject. This of course also applies to animations.
>
> Now we are a club where all the members have voting rights. I like this
> idea. As
> long as it is not abused it should work very well. In the IRTC I often
> wished
> that I could vote and comment but since I seldom entered I could not. Nice
> one
> Steve.
Yes, let's see how it goes for this one. I think it should be ok, and
I've put the 20/20/20 idea on hold too, but, if I see silly scoring like
1/1/1, it might be resurrected again, or the perpetrator gets banned. I
personally don't want to ban anyone - that just isn't me, but it would be
nice to have some honesty. Sure, if an image is really bad, then mark
accordingly, but most images aren't like that, they are fairly good in their
own unique way, so the voting (and commenting) should reflect that for that
particular image.
> BTW in the stills challenge Ian MacKay's image is not shown.
Ah, thanks for pointing that out Stephen, this is because I had to
change Ian's username to give him voting rights on animations. I'll email
him and ask him to re-upload the image.
(See? I told you I was in a typing frenzy!) :o)
~Steve~
> --
>
> Regards
> Stephen
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:27:51 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dot com> wrote:
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> Yes, let's see how it goes for this one. I think it should be ok, and
>I've put the 20/20/20 idea on hold too, but, if I see silly scoring like
>1/1/1, it might be resurrected again, or the perpetrator gets banned. I
>personally don't want to ban anyone - that just isn't me, but it would be
>nice to have some honesty. Sure, if an image is really bad, then mark
>accordingly, but most images aren't like that, they are fairly good in their
>own unique way, so the voting (and commenting) should reflect that for that
>particular image.
>
Yeah, the 20/20/20 should be a last resort IMO. I did not know that new entrants
could not vote. Maybe if a score is less than 5 a comment must be made
compulsory (?)
>> BTW in the stills challenge Ian MacKay's image is not shown.
>
> Ah, thanks for pointing that out Stephen, this is because I had to
>change Ian's username to give him voting rights on animations. I'll email
>him and ask him to re-upload the image.
>
Oh! Is he going to upload an animation? I hope so.
> (See? I told you I was in a typing frenzy!) :o)
Those little fingers must be worn t the bone :)
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Stephen
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht
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>>
> Yeah, the 20/20/20 should be a last resort IMO. I did not know that new
> entrants
> could not vote. Maybe if a score is less than 5 a comment must be made
> compulsory (?)
This seems to be a good suggestion to me. I'll second that.
Thomas
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"St." <dot### [at] dot com> schreef in bericht news:488993de@news.povray.org...
>
> Hehe, you're not daft Thomas, far from it. :) You are perfectly correct
> of course, and I have to again say that I didn't like that particular rule
> myself. It was a way to try and get entrants to enter at another time,
> rather than just enter once and then disappear never to be seen again. It
> was also a way to stop vote rigging as there were a few who created extra
> accounts. Anyway, I've now addressed this and now ALL members can vote
> whether or not they have entered or will never enter. The rules have been
> amended to reflect this, and additionally, I've also added that any member
> can enter as many times as they want as long as it's a 'different' take on
> the subject. This of course also applies to animations.
>
Excellent news, Steve! Let's look how it goes from here.
(still a lot to do on my next entry.... but it grows, it grows...)
Thomas
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:18:37 +0200, "Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet>
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>(still a lot to do on my next entry.... but it grows, it grows...)
Mine doesn't, so there's a contrast <g>
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"Thomas de Groot" <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet> wrote in message
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> "St." <dot### [at] dot com> schreef in bericht news:488993de@news.povray.org...
> Excellent news, Steve! Let's look how it goes from here.
>
> (still a lot to do on my next entry.... but it grows, it grows...)
Heh, I haven't even started yet! But, I do have a great idea based on an
image I found on the net, but whether I can do it or not is a different
matter. I'll give it a go though. I'm really looking forward to this round.
:)
~Steve~
>
> Thomas
>
>
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:27:51 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dot com> wrote:
> Yeah, the 20/20/20 should be a last resort IMO. I did not know that new
> entrants
> could not vote. Maybe if a score is less than 5 a comment must be made
> compulsory (?)
Oh, that sounds like a good idea. I'm seeing Colin this weekend so I'll
discuss this.
>
>>> BTW in the stills challenge Ian MacKay's image is not shown.
>>
>> Ah, thanks for pointing that out Stephen, this is because I had to
>>change Ian's username to give him voting rights on animations. I'll email
>>him and ask him to re-upload the image.
>>
> Oh! Is he going to upload an animation? I hope so.
No, I don't think so, unfortunately. He had voting rights for stills
but not animations, so everybody now has voting rights on both. But because
his username was only 3 digits, (which it shouldn't be), I had to change it
before the 'admin' side of things would let me change the rights for anims.
>
>> (See? I told you I was in a typing frenzy!) :o)
>
> Those little fingers must be worn t the bone :)
To the bone, I tell ye! To the bone! :)
~Steve~
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>
> Regards
> Stephen
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:59:55 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dot com> wrote:
>
>"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message
>news:55cj849oqu2cp3uh5ljponto9i4l2jm8q1@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 11:27:51 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dot com> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, the 20/20/20 should be a last resort IMO. I did not know that new
>> entrants
>> could not vote. Maybe if a score is less than 5 a comment must be made
>> compulsory (?)
>
> Oh, that sounds like a good idea. I'm seeing Colin this weekend so I'll
>discuss this.
>
Less than 5 is just a thought. Ooo! I;ve had one :)
>>
>>>> BTW in the stills challenge Ian MacKay's image is not shown.
>>>
>>> Ah, thanks for pointing that out Stephen, this is because I had to
>>>change Ian's username to give him voting rights on animations. I'll email
>>>him and ask him to re-upload the image.
>>>
>> Oh! Is he going to upload an animation? I hope so.
>
> No, I don't think so, unfortunately. He had voting rights for stills
>but not animations, so everybody now has voting rights on both. But because
>his username was only 3 digits, (which it shouldn't be), I had to change it
>before the 'admin' side of things would let me change the rights for anims.
>
>
Shame, I'd like to see what he would do. :(
<Hint, hint :) >
>>
>>> (See? I told you I was in a typing frenzy!) :o)
>>
>> Those little fingers must be worn t the bone :)
>
> To the bone, I tell ye! To the bone! :)
>
Aye oop!
:)
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"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> schreef in bericht
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> On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 13:18:37 +0200, "Thomas de Groot"
> <t.d### [at] inter nlDOTnet>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>(still a lot to do on my next entry.... but it grows, it grows...)
>
> Mine doesn't, so there's a contrast <g>
LOL!
Thomas
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"St." <dot### [at] dot com> schreef in bericht news:4889c1ff$1@news.povray.org...
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>>
>> (still a lot to do on my next entry.... but it grows, it grows...)
>
> Heh, I haven't even started yet! But, I do have a great idea based on an
> image I found on the net, but whether I can do it or not is a different
> matter. I'll give it a go though. I'm really looking forward to this
> round. :)
>
This round is not immediately obvious. I needed a couple of weeks to sort
between options.
Thomas
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