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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 20 Apr 2003 14:42:41
Message: <3ea2ea21$1@news.povray.org>

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> Robert Ryman  <-- has spent his entire career painting only with white
paint
> Yves Klien   <--- painted a whole series of paintings with a special
> blue he named after himself

In fact, for these two artists, one could even discuss the "monochromatic"
aspect. On close up, Ryman's paintings are not just white but complex and
quite vibrant surfaces, less emotional than Pierre Soulages' black ones
though, but certainly more than, say, Donald Judd's.
And Klein, well I've been going back to Pompidou for years and I just don't
get where he got that blue paint. It's very strange, almost velvety, and
really beautiful. I have a large boar skeleton here in my office and I
always wanted to have it painted in patented YKB, just for the fun of it :-)
One sure thing, though, is that monochromatic paintings don't look good when
scanned and put on web pages!

G.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 20 Apr 2003 19:30:40
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Gilles Tran wrote:

> And Klein, well I've been going back to Pompidou for years and I just don't
> get where he got that blue paint. 

Yves Klein, of course, thanks for catching that Gilles.

I believe the Pompidou is the only place I seen a real one, 20 years ago 
now.

  I have a large boar skeleton here in my office

Now there's got to be a story there!


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From: Slashdolt
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 21 Apr 2003 00:05:39
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> One sure thing, though, is that monochromatic paintings don't look good
when
> scanned and put on web pages!
>

I really need to get out more.  In fact, I'm hoping to do just that.
Suddenly, I'm realizing how art-deficient I am.  Even so, I've been viewing
more and more things via the Web.  I realize that it's not the same as
actually viewing a painting or other work of art first hand (perhaps digital
art excepted), but until I can afford to travel around, it gets me by.

> ... I have a large boar skeleton here in my office...


ces Gaulois!
Unfortunately, much of my French was learned via Asterix comics.  :-/
Hopefully, it's grammatically correct, funny, and not insulting...  ;-)

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Jeremix
aka Slashdolt


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 21 Apr 2003 09:39:27
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"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in message
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I'm pretty proud of having known who *one* of those guys was. Here's
some links I found for anyone else feeling the same way.

Robert Ryman:
<http://www.macalester.edu/~warren/courses/Hildegard/ryman.jpg>

Yves Klein:
<http://www.poster.net/klein-yves/klein-yves-das-blaue-schwammrelief-350
0045.jpg>

Agnes Martin:
<http://home.sprynet.com/~mindweb/agnes.jpg>

Pierre Soulages:
<http://www.nordnet.fr/mam/images/peinture_222x175.jpg>

Donald Judd:
<http://www.artline.com/associations/ifpda/ifpdafair/ifpdafair2001/exhib
itors/sheehan/Untitled_judd.jpg>

 -Shay


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 21 Apr 2003 09:41:59
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"Shay" <shi### [at] houstonrrcom> wrote in message
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Yaaaaaawn. Very typical of me. I get involved in some project and get so
caught up in it that I have to prattle on when I'm not able to be
working on it.<g>

 -Shay


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 21 Apr 2003 12:11:19
Message: <3ea41827@news.povray.org>
Shay wrote:
> 
> To use Malevich as an example. If I had never seen one of his paintings, and
> someone had explained the ideals of Surpemism and from what time and part of
> the world it had come, I'd probably imagine something like a red square on a
> white background. I'm guessing so would most people.
> 

Most of Malevich's paintings are like that.  Including if memory serves 
a painting of a white square against a white ground.  Accordingly, 
having never seen "Red Square" I am not sure if it is simply red or if 
it contains some sort of image.  The difference is quite significant as 
you say.


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 21 Apr 2003 12:22:16
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Shay wrote:

> I'm pretty proud of having known who *one* of those guys was. 

Wasn't Judd from Texas too?


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 21 Apr 2003 12:32:27
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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||
| Wasn't Judd from Texas too?
|

He wasn't the oen with which I was falimiar (Soulages was), but since
I'm having a really poor day at work, I did take some time to look, and
Judd was born in Excelsior Springs, Missouri. He had a studio in Texas.
Here is an interesting link I found:
http://photos.nakedgremlin.com/marfatexas/view/15.html

 -Shay


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From: Shay
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 21 Apr 2003 12:36:37
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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|  Accordingly, having never seen "Red Square"

http://max.mmlc.northwestern.edu/~mdenner/Drama/visualarts/avant-garde/r
edsquare-18.jpg

I think he called it 'Peasant Woman in two dimensions'.

 -Shay


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: IRTC participation shrinking?
Date: 21 Apr 2003 13:12:49
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Shay wrote:
> "Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
> news:3ea41827@news.povray.org...
> 
> |  Accordingly, having never seen "Red Square"
> 
> http://max.mmlc.northwestern.edu/~mdenner/Drama/visualarts/avant-garde/r
> edsquare-18.jpg
> 
> I think he called it 'Peasant Woman in two dimensions'.
> 
>  -Shay
> 
> 
LOL I've been thinking it was a monochrome painting all along.  Oh well, 
I guess what I've been saying still stands LOL


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