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"Slashdolt" <sla### [at] hotmail com> wrote in message
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My wife has a friend who works at a place here in Houston called "Diverse
Works." This place features some really off the wall modern art like a guy
puking in a glass toilet. What's interesting to me is that even some of the
strangest things there sort of make sense when her friend, Keith, shares
what the artists have told him about their work. Some, however, still
don't.<g>
Keith defines art as anything a peson does to express a thought or feeling.
I can't accept that, because that would mean that I've written a poem
everytime I say, "Ouch, that hurts" or "Damn, that was a really good
sandwitch." I'd use the narrower definition of art as something which
*conveys* a thought or feeling. It's surprising to me, though, how much
really odd stuff even fits that narrower description.
To use Malevich as an example. If I had never seen one of his paintings, and
someone had explained the ideals of Surpemism and from what time and part of
the world it had come, I'd probably imagine something like a red square on a
white background. I'm guessing so would most people.
I usually find that when I see a famous piece of art which makes no sense to
me whatsoever, I later find out that the artist and I have absolutely
nothing in common culturally. I miss the point not because the artist wasn't
communicating it, but because the point is simply too foreign for me to
understand.
It's always fun to look, however. Jim Charter's tea and ornages picture is a
perfect example. He is pretty modest about it, but every word of the first
verse of a song was included in his picture, and it was so plain to see by
just slowing down and looking at it for a second. I'm certinly no art
expert, but even I was able to see all of that in the picture.I'm excited by
using PoV-Ray to translate complex thougts (which would take pages and pages
to write) into a picture which can be seen in a glance and puzzled by why so
few others choose to do so.
-Shay
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> Robert Ryman <-- has spent his entire career painting only with white
paint
> Yves Klien <--- painted a whole series of paintings with a special
> blue he named after himself
In fact, for these two artists, one could even discuss the "monochromatic"
aspect. On close up, Ryman's paintings are not just white but complex and
quite vibrant surfaces, less emotional than Pierre Soulages' black ones
though, but certainly more than, say, Donald Judd's.
And Klein, well I've been going back to Pompidou for years and I just don't
get where he got that blue paint. It's very strange, almost velvety, and
really beautiful. I have a large boar skeleton here in my office and I
always wanted to have it painted in patented YKB, just for the fun of it :-)
One sure thing, though, is that monochromatic paintings don't look good when
scanned and put on web pages!
G.
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> And Klein, well I've been going back to Pompidou for years and I just don't
> get where he got that blue paint.
Yves Klein, of course, thanks for catching that Gilles.
I believe the Pompidou is the only place I seen a real one, 20 years ago
now.
I have a large boar skeleton here in my office
Now there's got to be a story there!
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> One sure thing, though, is that monochromatic paintings don't look good
when
> scanned and put on web pages!
>
I really need to get out more. In fact, I'm hoping to do just that.
Suddenly, I'm realizing how art-deficient I am. Even so, I've been viewing
more and more things via the Web. I realize that it's not the same as
actually viewing a painting or other work of art first hand (perhaps digital
art excepted), but until I can afford to travel around, it gets me by.
> ... I have a large boar skeleton here in my office...
ces Gaulois!
Unfortunately, much of my French was learned via Asterix comics. :-/
Hopefully, it's grammatically correct, funny, and not insulting... ;-)
--
Jeremix
aka Slashdolt
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"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in message
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I'm pretty proud of having known who *one* of those guys was. Here's
some links I found for anyone else feeling the same way.
Robert Ryman:
<http://www.macalester.edu/~warren/courses/Hildegard/ryman.jpg>
Yves Klein:
<http://www.poster.net/klein-yves/klein-yves-das-blaue-schwammrelief-350
0045.jpg>
Agnes Martin:
<http://home.sprynet.com/~mindweb/agnes.jpg>
Pierre Soulages:
<http://www.nordnet.fr/mam/images/peinture_222x175.jpg>
Donald Judd:
<http://www.artline.com/associations/ifpda/ifpdafair/ifpdafair2001/exhib
itors/sheehan/Untitled_judd.jpg>
-Shay
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"Shay" <shi### [at] houstonrrcom> wrote in message
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Yaaaaaawn. Very typical of me. I get involved in some project and get so
caught up in it that I have to prattle on when I'm not able to be
working on it.<g>
-Shay
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Shay wrote:
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> To use Malevich as an example. If I had never seen one of his paintings, and
> someone had explained the ideals of Surpemism and from what time and part of
> the world it had come, I'd probably imagine something like a red square on a
> white background. I'm guessing so would most people.
>
Most of Malevich's paintings are like that. Including if memory serves
a painting of a white square against a white ground. Accordingly,
having never seen "Red Square" I am not sure if it is simply red or if
it contains some sort of image. The difference is quite significant as
you say.
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Shay wrote:
> I'm pretty proud of having known who *one* of those guys was.
Wasn't Judd from Texas too?
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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| Wasn't Judd from Texas too?
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He wasn't the oen with which I was falimiar (Soulages was), but since
I'm having a really poor day at work, I did take some time to look, and
Judd was born in Excelsior Springs, Missouri. He had a studio in Texas.
Here is an interesting link I found:
http://photos.nakedgremlin.com/marfatexas/view/15.html
-Shay
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] aolcom> wrote in message
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| Accordingly, having never seen "Red Square"
http://max.mmlc.northwestern.edu/~mdenner/Drama/visualarts/avant-garde/r
edsquare-18.jpg
I think he called it 'Peasant Woman in two dimensions'.
-Shay
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