... or do a remarkable number of images seem wilfully off-topic this round?
(not to mention a noticeable lack of anti-aliasing).

Strange.

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I'm downloading them all now, I looked at a one and thought "that has
nothing to do with the round" (the one with the external view of the house?)

The rest I can, so far, see the contrasts in, some of them are fairly clever
too.  I guess I'll find more o-t ones as I download and view more, I'll get
back to you :)

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ooo did you check out Gilles'?  Wow... he always seems to come up with
something kewl... :)

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Lance Birch wrote:
> 
> ooo did you check out Gilles'?  Wow... he always seems to come up with
> something kewl... :)

Pssst... Don't tell anyone but Gilles cheats. He has real artistic talent.

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Ken wrote:
> Lance Birch wrote:
> >
> > ooo did you check out Gilles'?  Wow... he always seems to come up with
> > something kewl... :)
>
> Pssst... Don't tell anyone but Gilles cheats. He has real artistic talent.

Ahh, so that's how he does it...

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Tom Melly wrote:
> ... or do a remarkable number of images seem wilfully off-topic this
round?
> (not to mention a noticeable lack of anti-aliasing).

OK, I looked through all the images, and I have to agree.  There are some
really strange images that don't seem to have any kind of contrast in them,
for example, ones like test.jpg.  One of them looks like it's been
completely post processed, one of them looks like it wasn't even rendered, a
lot of them have a lack of anti-aliasing as you mentioned, and there are
some that don't seem to fit the theme at all.

That said, there are some VERY nice renderings that really stand out and fit
the topic well.  There are also some very clever ideas that people have come
up with for contrasts, like the Escher'esque "hand holding silvered ball"
one, and of course Gilles' rendering which I'm just drooling over at the
moment.

Something about that image actually, it took me a while to notice the toilet
was being sidelit by the TV in the other room (probably because I was just
drooling over the image at first, hehe), which made me realise there's
actually a walk way there!  LOL, at first I'd thought they were completely
closed off rooms, not joined, and he was looking at her from an adjacent
apartment on the TV, then I realised they were joined, and he was looking at
her in the room, but they're in the same apartment...  LOL... that didn't
make any sense did it?

Annnnyywaayyy... *goes back to looking through the images*  I think I'm
going to have to read a lot of these text files carefully so that I actually
get the contrasts in some of these images.

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"Lance Birch" <-> wrote in message news:3a52bb5b@news.povray.org...
>
> OK, I looked through all the images, and I have to agree.  There are some
> really strange images that don't seem to have any kind of contrast in
them,
> for example, ones like test.jpg.  One of them looks like it's been
> completely post processed, one of them looks like it wasn't even rendered,
a
> lot of them have a lack of anti-aliasing as you mentioned, and there are
> some that don't seem to fit the theme at all.
>

The off-topic thing is weird - looking over my entries for previous irtc
entries, 3/7 of them could easily have been submitted for this round -
"contrasts" is a fairly inclusive topic as well as being a naturally
occuring theme in many compositions. As for the lack of AA, it isn't
reserved for the sub-standard images. A lot of pics that obviously required
a lot of work and effort are marred by this.

>
> Annnnyywaayyy... *goes back to looking through the images*  I think I'm
> going to have to read a lot of these text files carefully so that I
actually
> get the contrasts in some of these images.
>

Yes - although IMHO and except in specific circumstances, I don't think it
should be necessery to go to the text file to work out whether an image is
on-topic or not. Oh well.

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"Ken" <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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>
> Pssst... Don't tell anyone but Gilles cheats. He has real artistic talent.
>

Is that some kind of commercial package or plugin?

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Tom Melly wrote:
> Yes - although IMHO and except in specific circumstances, I don't think it
> should be necessery to go to the text file to work out whether an image is
> on-topic or not. Oh well.

Well, that's what I thought too... I figured you should be able to see the
contrasts in the image anyway, but I thought perhaps there was something
obvious I'd missed in a few of them.

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Lance Birch <-> wrote:
: OK, I looked through all the images, and I have to agree.  There are some
: really strange images that don't seem to have any kind of contrast in them,
: for example, ones like test.jpg.  One of them looks like it's been
: completely post processed, one of them looks like it wasn't even rendered, a
: lot of them have a lack of anti-aliasing as you mentioned, and there are
: some that don't seem to fit the theme at all.

  Perhaps the contrast comes from the fact that the image has nothing to
do with the topic?

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Warp wrote:
>   Perhaps the contrast comes from the fact that the image has nothing to
> do with the topic?

Hmm, hadn't thought of that...

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"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
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>
>   Perhaps the contrast comes from the fact that the image has nothing to
> do with the topic?
>

This occured to me - also that the contrast is in the lack of AA ;)

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Lance Birch wrote:

> One of them looks like it's been
> completely post processed, one of them looks like it wasn't even rendered, a
> lot of them have a lack of anti-aliasing as you mentioned, and there are
> some that don't seem to fit the theme at all.

And one of them not only is a tiny photograph, but the text file says that it
has been done for the "Nature" round...

G.

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Gilles Tran wrote:
> And one of them not only is a tiny photograph, but the text file says that
it
> has been done for the "Nature" round...

LOL!

While you're here Gilles, congrats on the image, I really like it :)

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Lance Birch wrote:

> While you're here Gilles, congrats on the image, I really like it :)

Ah, thanks. I was quite happy to see yours too :)
G.

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Gilles Tran wrote:
> Lance Birch wrote:
>
> > While you're here Gilles, congrats on the image, I really like it :)
>
> Ah, thanks. I was quite happy to see yours too :)

I was determined to get an entry in this time, even if it wasn't up to
scratch :)  I ran out of time and had too much other stuff to do, but I
figured I'd gotten that far so I might as well enter it anyway :)

By the way, your image is now my new wallpaper :)  I just love how they all
seem to have so much "atmosphere" to them, it's just incredible :)

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[This followup was posted to irtc.stills and a copy was sent to the 
cited author.]

In article <3a5251cc@news.povray.org>, tom### [at] tomandlucouk says...
> ... or do a remarkable number of images seem wilfully off-topic this round?
> (not to mention a noticeable lack of anti-aliasing).
> 
> Strange.

Where (and/or when) can I see the IRTC stills??

Regards,  Sander

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Sander Stols wrote:
> Where (and/or when) can I see the IRTC stills??

http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2000-12-31/

:)

The files are locked for a while after the date has passed, then you can
download them... an official announcement should reach everyone fairly soon,
but as I see it the admin are usually fairly busy, so it takes a few days
for them to update everything and get file mirrors in place (which is why
they don't release the address right away, they'd prefer people to use the
mirrors).

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Lance Birch wrote:

> Sander Stols wrote:
> > Where (and/or when) can I see the IRTC stills??
> http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2000-12-31/
>
> :)
>

Even more comfortable : http://www.irtc.org/stills/2000-12-31/view.html
:):)

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Gilles Tran wrote:
> Lance Birch wrote:
>
> > Sander Stols wrote:
> > > Where (and/or when) can I see the IRTC stills??
> > http://www.irtc.org/ftp/pub/stills/2000-12-31/
> >
> > :)
> >
>
> Even more comfortable : http://www.irtc.org/stills/2000-12-31/view.html
> :):)

Ooo I didn't try that one :)

Thanks Gilles!

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[This followup was posted to irtc.stills and a copy was sent to the 
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In article <3A5### [at] inapginrafr>, tra### [at] inapginrafr says...
> 
> Even more comfortable : http://www.irtc.org/stills/2000-12-31/view.html
> :):)
Thanks; many of the contributions are great! I'm glad I don't have to 
judge them :o)

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"Sander Stols" <san### [at] stolscom> wrote in message
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> Thanks; many of the contributions are great! I'm glad I don't have to
> judge them :o)
>

Judging is fun - in our household it's a family activity.

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Tom Melly wrote:
> "Sander Stols" <san### [at] stolscom> wrote in message
> news:MPG### [at] NEWSPOVRAYORG...
>
> > Thanks; many of the contributions are great! I'm glad I don't have to
> > judge them :o)
> >
>
> Judging is fun - in our household it's a family activity.

Ooo, that'd be kewl :)

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Lance Birch wrote:

>
> > Judging is fun - in our household it's a family activity.
>
> Ooo, that'd be kewl :)
>

Yes the whole family helps out here too

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