The May/June Stills Challenge: After Dark has ended.

Members are all kindly invited to vote. As usual, they can do this till 
the end of this month.
Remember: do not forget to vote for all the images if you want your 
votes to be valid!

Not a member yet? Please become one and participate in the bi-monthly 
Challenges.

The new Challenge for July/August 2012 is: Railway.


Stephen & Thomas, Administrators
http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/index/index.html

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Am 17.06.2012 09:00, schrieb Thomas de Groot:

> The new Challenge for July/August 2012 is: Railway.

Hm... I /think/ I'm sort of obliged to join this challenge... time to 
heat up the engine and get the USRA Heavy Santa Fe rolling again.

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On 17-6-2012 16:12, clipka wrote:
> Am 17.06.2012 09:00, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>
>> The new Challenge for July/August 2012 is: Railway.
>
> Hm... I /think/ I'm sort of obliged to join this challenge... time to
> heat up the engine and get the USRA Heavy Santa Fe rolling again.

That would be fantastic! You have been missed :-)

Thomas

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I'll enter this one.  Red Dead Redemption got me fired up... :)

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On 18/06/2012 6:40 PM, nemesis wrote:
> I'll enter this one.  Red Dead Redemption got me fired up... :)
>
>
>
Go for it! :-)

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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Why not make just make tina chep the new irtc.org?

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On 12/07/2012 9:35 PM, jhu wrote:
> Why not make just make tina chep the new irtc.org?
>
>
When TC-RTC was started it was meant as a temporary stand in for the 
IRTC. But it has never grabbed the attention of the ray tracing 
community. If you can think of anything that would help promote it. 
Thomas and I would welcome any suggestions.
And just to make it clear, TC-RTC is not associated with Pov-Ray in any 
way other than the administrators are long time users of Pov-Ray. In 
fact the rules were changed to allow any renderer to be used as one of 
the early members built and uses his own system.
It is not just a matter of changing its name. As always there is more to 
the story.
What we need is for lots of people to enter and lots of people to vote 
for the entries.
Why don’t you join and enter an image or vote for the next challenge. We 
have a forum as well.
Everyone is welcome.


-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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Le 12/07/2012 23:19, Stephen a écrit :
> If you can think of anything that would help promote it.

A coherent name with a coherent url.
So far it seems called "tina chep", yet the not obvious url is
www.tc-rtc.co.uk/index/index.html

At least www.tc-rtc.co.uk is giving a good page. And google find it
first on just "tc-rtc"

short acronym is good for URL: irtc was easy to remember, but that
"minus" sign is just a PITA for tc-rtc (where is it ? second, third,
fourth position... too much pain for a brain)

tinachep is a too long acronym (sort of; "che" is a quite large bit),
and "KNX is not X" is a tired meme, just a bit older than "all your base
belong to us"... even "the cake is a lie" is faded, like all the YA...
pattern


And irtc was not about povray. just raytracers.

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On 13-7-2012 9:17, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> Le 12/07/2012 23:19, Stephen a écrit :
>> If you can think of anything that would help promote it.
>
> A coherent name with a coherent url.
> So far it seems called "tina chep", yet the not obvious url is
> www.tc-rtc.co.uk/index/index.html
>
> At least www.tc-rtc.co.uk is giving a good page. And google find it
> first on just "tc-rtc"
>
> short acronym is good for URL: irtc was easy to remember, but that
> "minus" sign is just a PITA for tc-rtc (where is it ? second, third,
> fourth position... too much pain for a brain)

I am not so sure about location finding for interested people. That 
sounds rather trivial to me. One of the criticism I have heard however 
was that the topics (based on book titles) were not liked, or some such. 
Too much pain for the brain?  ;-)

>
> tinachep is a too long acronym (sort of; "che" is a quite large bit),
> and "KNX is not X" is a tired meme, just a bit older than "all your base
> belong to us"... even "the cake is a lie" is faded, like all the YA...
> pattern

???

>
>
> And irtc was not about povray. just raytracers.

Really? I do not remember any other raytracer used than POV-Ray... But 
then, I may not have really paid attention to that as it was POV-Ray in 
most cases... or am I wrong?


Thomas

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On 12-7-2012 23:19, Stephen wrote:
> On 12/07/2012 9:35 PM, jhu wrote:
>> Why not make just make tina chep the new irtc.org?
>>
>>
> When TC-RTC was started it was meant as a temporary stand in for the
> IRTC. But it has never grabbed the attention of the ray tracing
> community. If you can think of anything that would help promote it.
> Thomas and I would welcome any suggestions.
> And just to make it clear, TC-RTC is not associated with Pov-Ray in any
> way other than the administrators are long time users of Pov-Ray. In
> fact the rules were changed to allow any renderer to be used as one of
> the early members built and uses his own system.
> It is not just a matter of changing its name. As always there is more to
> the story.
> What we need is for lots of people to enter and lots of people to vote
> for the entries.
> Why don’t you join and enter an image or vote for the next challenge. We
> have a forum as well.
> Everyone is welcome.
>
>
And there is more I think. When the IRTC restarted, TC-RTC suffered a 
bit from people turning back to the old familiar grounds, but it seems 
that the real interest in these kind of competitions/challenges has 
dwindled as the IRTC too suffered in the end from a lack of uploads, 
especially compared to the heydays of the competition. And many of the 
strong artists from those days have disappeared over the last five to 
ten years. Other interests? Other challenges?

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>
> Really? I do not remember any other raytracer used than POV-Ray... But
> then, I may not have really paid attention to that as it was POV-Ray in
> most cases... or am I wrong?

Hi Thomas,

nearly every ray-tracer thinkable was used in the irtc. I have only data for the
first period up to 2006. Pov was used most, but for example some 10 percent of
the entries were made with 3DS closely followed by Bryce. Next seems to be
Blender.

Don't ask why I have such statistics...

Best regards,
Michael

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On 18-7-2012 21:25, TawnyOwl wrote:
>
> nearly every ray-tracer thinkable was used in the irtc. I have only data for the
> first period up to 2006. Pov was used most, but for example some 10 percent of
> the entries were made with 3DS closely followed by Bryce. Next seems to be
> Blender.
My memory is selective ;-)

I remember one image (Decay, 2003) because it was made by a colleague 
from work back then, which was modelled in Blender and rendered in 
POV-Ray... I don't know why it was not rendered also in Blender though.

>
> Don't ask why I have such statistics...

I won't ;-)

Thomas

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Am 19.07.2012 09:01, schrieb Thomas de Groot:

> I remember one image (Decay, 2003) because it was made by a colleague
> from work back then, which was modelled in Blender and rendered in
> POV-Ray... I don't know why it was not rendered also in Blender though.

Maybe because back then Blender's built-in rendering engine (if it even 
had any then) sucked?

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On 19-7-2012 16:22, clipka wrote:
> Maybe because back then Blender's built-in rendering engine (if it even
> had any then) sucked?

Yes, I have been wondering at that. When was Blender's render engine 
launched? I have the impression that back in 2003 there was none...

Thomas

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Em 20/07/2012 04:31, Thomas de Groot escreveu:
> On 19-7-2012 16:22, clipka wrote:
>> Maybe because back then Blender's built-in rendering engine (if it even
>> had any then) sucked?
>
> Yes, I have been wondering at that. When was Blender's render engine
> launched? I have the impression that back in 2003 there was none...

I think Blender always came with its own render engine -- the so-called 
Blender Internal -- but it was seemingly just a scanline back then:

http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/gallery/archive/2003/

The old Blender Internal renderer got a raytracer integrated but is too 
messy, too late.  They intend to make the new Cycles unbiased path 
tracer the default engine eventually.  It's built into the latest 
releases and already provides some awesome results at minimal cost for 
set up and I'll be using it.  Just hope my modelling skills can match 
the lighting... :)

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On 20-7-2012 18:20, nemesis wrote:
> I think Blender always came with its own render engine -- the so-called
> Blender Internal -- but it was seemingly just a scanline back then:
>
> http://www.blender.org/features-gallery/gallery/archive/2003/
>
> The old Blender Internal renderer got a raytracer integrated but is too
> messy, too late.  They intend to make the new Cycles unbiased path
> tracer the default engine eventually.  It's built into the latest
> releases and already provides some awesome results at minimal cost for
> set up and I'll be using it.  Just hope my modelling skills can match
> the lighting... :)
I am slowly learning Blender, so I am curious.

Thomas

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On 17-6-2012 9:00, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> The new Challenge for July/August 2012 is: Railway.
>
>
> Stephen & Thomas, Administrators
> http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/index/index.html

Three weeks to go; three images uploaded so far; we need more work!

Where is all that inspiration gone?

Come on people, winter sleep is over ;-)

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 17-6-2012 9:00, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> > The new Challenge for July/August 2012 is: Railway.
> >
> >
> > Stephen & Thomas, Administrators
> > http://www.tc-rtc.co.uk/index/index.html
>
> Three weeks to go; three images uploaded so far; we need more work!
>
> Where is all that inspiration gone?
>
> Come on people, winter sleep is over ;-)
>
> Thomas

what?!!

doesn't the competition end 31 august?!

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On 27/07/2012 7:12 PM, nemesis wrote:

>>
>> Three weeks to go; three images uploaded so far; we need more work!
>>

>
> what?!!
>
> doesn't the competition end 31 august?!
>

No. The 31st of August is when the voting ends. We allow two weeks for 
that so the deadline for entries is midnight of 17/8/12 BST.
To be honest I cannot find where to change that particular text.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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On 28-7-2012 9:11, Stephen wrote:
> On 27/07/2012 7:12 PM, nemesis wrote:
>
>>>
>>> Three weeks to go; three images uploaded so far; we need more work!
>>>
>
>>
>> what?!!
>>
>> doesn't the competition end 31 august?!
>>
>
> No. The 31st of August is when the voting ends. We allow two weeks for
> that so the deadline for entries is midnight of 17/8/12 BST.
> To be honest I cannot find where to change that particular text.
>

...and as you are told the next Challenge topic on that same date, you 
still have two complete months to prepare an entry :-)

To Stephen: as administrators, we are only allowed to change the 
floating top bar. Only Colin seems to have access to that part of the site.

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 28-7-2012 9:11, Stephen wrote:
> > On 27/07/2012 7:12 PM, nemesis wrote:
> >
> >>>
> >>> Three weeks to go; three images uploaded so far; we need more work!
> >>>
> >
> >>
> >> what?!!
> >>
> >> doesn't the competition end 31 august?!
> >>
> >
> > No. The 31st of August is when the voting ends. We allow two weeks for
> > that so the deadline for entries is midnight of 17/8/12 BST.
> > To be honest I cannot find where to change that particular text.
> >
>
> ...and as you are told the next Challenge topic on that same date, you
> still have two complete months to prepare an entry :-)
>
> To Stephen: as administrators, we are only allowed to change the
> floating top bar. Only Colin seems to have access to that part of the site.

well, I guess it's enough.  I was working on it but on july I got into a 2 week
vacation with my daughter and shall get to work on it again...

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"nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> > On 28-7-2012 9:11, Stephen wrote:
> > > On 27/07/2012 7:12 PM, nemesis wrote:
> > >
> > >>>
> > >>> Three weeks to go; three images uploaded so far; we need more work!
> > >>>
> > >
> > >>
> > >> what?!!
> > >>
> > >> doesn't the competition end 31 august?!
> > >>
> > >
> > > No. The 31st of August is when the voting ends. We allow two weeks for
> > > that so the deadline for entries is midnight of 17/8/12 BST.
> > > To be honest I cannot find where to change that particular text.
> > >
> >
> > ...and as you are told the next Challenge topic on that same date, you
> > still have two complete months to prepare an entry :-)
> >
> > To Stephen: as administrators, we are only allowed to change the
> > floating top bar. Only Colin seems to have access to that part of the site.
>
> well, I guess it's enough.  I was working on it but on july I got into a 2 week
> vacation with my daughter and shall get to work on it again...


I'm still wondering. The Tina-chep-site seems to be unvisible to google
completely. If I search for my own entríes I find only pictures from people with
the same name than mine but not even a hint to my pictures. If I google for
Thomas or Stephen I find only pictures published in the pov-newsgroups. The
google search-engine is a bot, may be tc-rtc is rejecting bots, so we will never
came up with google.

Best regards,
Michael

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On 03/08/2012 8:05 PM, TawnyOwl wrote:
> I'm still wondering. The Tina-chep-site seems to be unvisible to google
> completely.

You have a point there. I finally got in touch with Colin (the 
developer). When he gets back to me I will ask him about it.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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"TawnyOwl" <taw### [at] webde> wrote:
> "nemesis" <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> > Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> > > On 28-7-2012 9:11, Stephen wrote:
> > > > On 27/07/2012 7:12 PM, nemesis wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Three weeks to go; three images uploaded so far; we need more work!
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> what?!!
> > > >>
> > > >> doesn't the competition end 31 august?!
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > No. The 31st of August is when the voting ends. We allow two weeks for
> > > > that so the deadline for entries is midnight of 17/8/12 BST.
> > > > To be honest I cannot find where to change that particular text.
> > > >
> > >
> > > ...and as you are told the next Challenge topic on that same date, you
> > > still have two complete months to prepare an entry :-)
> > >
> > > To Stephen: as administrators, we are only allowed to change the
> > > floating top bar. Only Colin seems to have access to that part of the site.
> >
> > well, I guess it's enough.  I was working on it but on july I got into a 2 week
> > vacation with my daughter and shall get to work on it again...
>
>
> I'm still wondering. The Tina-chep-site seems to be unvisible to google
> completely. If I search for my own entríes I find only pictures from people with
> the same name than mine but not even a hint to my pictures. If I google for
> Thomas or Stephen I find only pictures published in the pov-newsgroups. The
> google search-engine is a bot, may be tc-rtc is rejecting bots, so we will never
> came up with google.
>
> Best regards,
> Michael

if so, someone should edit the ROBOTS.txt file in the website...

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Stil now entrees, where are are all the railroadmodelers, regarding all the
magazines and websites aboout this topic

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On 3-8-2012 22:28, BertvdB wrote:
> Stil now entrees, where are are all the railroadmodelers, regarding all the
> magazines and websites aboout this topic
>

I was surprised too. However, see what TawnyOwl writes above. He may 
have point there about visibility.

Welcome to the TC-RTC Community by the way :-)

Thomas

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On 3-8-2012 21:05, TawnyOwl wrote:

> I'm still wondering. The Tina-chep-site seems to be unvisible to google
> completely. If I search for my own entríes I find only pictures from people with
> the same name than mine but not even a hint to my pictures. If I google for
> Thomas or Stephen I find only pictures published in the pov-newsgroups. The
> google search-engine is a bot, may be tc-rtc is rejecting bots, so we will never
> came up with google.
>

Now that you mention it... that may explain a lot of things...

Thomas

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On 3-8-2012 22:13, nemesis wrote:
> if so, someone should edit the ROBOTS.txt file in the website...

Definitely something for Colin to look at. He is the Big Boss ;-)

Thomas

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> To Stephen: as administrators, we are only allowed to change the 
> floating top bar. Only Colin seems to have access to that part of the site.

actually this sounds like TC-RTC is quite dependent on the time and
interest of a single person. After the fate that befell IRTC (twice...)
this might be an issue of concern for people considering to join in.

Of course, you cannot pull a team of web site administrators out of
your hat, but you might want to ensure that the server, code, data and
backups are at least accessible by a larger number of people, and that
the system is documented to a point that someone else could setup a
new server running TC-RTC should the need arise.

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On 05/08/2012 2:12 PM, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
> actually this sounds like TC-RTC is quite dependent on the time and
> interest of a single person. After the fate that befell IRTC (twice...)
> this might be an issue of concern for people considering to join in.

You are quite right Christian,
To give some history, after the IRTC was down for about a year. Steve 
Paget (you may remember St) decided to give something back to the 
community. He contacted a web developer in his town and commissioned 
TC-RTC. So the web site is owned by Colin and we only use it. When Steve 
died a couple of years ago I contacted Colin and said that I would be 
willing to keep it running and Thomas de Groot kindly agreed to assist 
in the running of the site. (I say assist but Thomas does all the work.)
We don’t own the code and cannot change it. As the memory of Steve has 
faded Colin has lost some of his enthusiasm for maintaining it.
We have not bothered him too much with change requests. Partly because 
he does not give it a high priority (that means that he does not answer 
emails) and partly because the costs are minimal so you get what you pay 
for. We are a small group and most of us know the limitations and just 
live with it.

So that is it in a nutshell. If you can think of a practical solution we 
would be pleased to hear it.


-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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Em 05/08/2012 10:45, Stephen escreveu:
> On 05/08/2012 2:12 PM, Christian Froeschlin wrote:
>> actually this sounds like TC-RTC is quite dependent on the time and
>> interest of a single person. After the fate that befell IRTC (twice...)
>> this might be an issue of concern for people considering to join in.
>
> You are quite right Christian,
> To give some history, after the IRTC was down for about a year. Steve
> Paget (you may remember St) decided to give something back to the
> community. He contacted a web developer in his town and commissioned
> TC-RTC. So the web site is owned by Colin and we only use it. When Steve
> died a couple of years ago I contacted Colin and said that I would be
> willing to keep it running and Thomas de Groot kindly agreed to assist
> in the running of the site. (I say assist but Thomas does all the work.)
> We don’t own the code and cannot change it. As the memory of Steve has
> faded Colin has lost some of his enthusiasm for maintaining it.
> We have not bothered him too much with change requests. Partly because
> he does not give it a high priority (that means that he does not answer
> emails) and partly because the costs are minimal so you get what you pay
> for. We are a small group and most of us know the limitations and just
> live with it.
>
> So that is it in a nutshell. If you can think of a practical solution we
> would be pleased to hear it.

I remember St.

BTW, why not simply a free blog?  Something like tc-rtc.blogspot.com or 
tc-rtc.wordpress.com?  Administration hurdle is minimal and can be 
shared between a few select accounts.  Image posting and polls are among 
the features, plus comment system builtin, etc.

With so many cheap free solutions out there for creating and sharing 
content, I don't see the reason for bothering with a "home page".

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On 6-8-2012 2:40, nemesis wrote:
> BTW, why not simply a free blog?  Something like tc-rtc.blogspot.com or
> tc-rtc.wordpress.com?  Administration hurdle is minimal and can be
> shared between a few select accounts.  Image posting and polls are among
> the features, plus comment system builtin, etc.
>
> With so many cheap free solutions out there for creating and sharing
> content, I don't see the reason for bothering with a "home page".

Hmmm... an idea I need to think about... In first instance I am not very 
blog-minded, but who knows...

Thomas

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 3-8-2012 22:28, BertvdB wrote:
> > Stil now entrees, where are are all the railroadmodelers, regarding all the
> > magazines and websites aboout this topic
> >
>
> I was surprised too. However, see what TawnyOwl writes above. He may
> have point there about visibility.
>
> Welcome to the TC-RTC Community by the way :-)
>
> Thomas

Entries are due by 8/17. Some of us are going to use the entire time!

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On 06/08/2012 5:58 PM, jhu wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
>> On 3-8-2012 22:28, BertvdB wrote:
>>> Stil now entrees, where are are all the railroadmodelers, regarding all the
>>> magazines and websites aboout this topic
>>>
>>
>> I was surprised too. However, see what TawnyOwl writes above. He may
>> have point there about visibility.
>>
>> Welcome to the TC-RTC Community by the way :-)
>>
>> Thomas
>
> Entries are due by 8/17. Some of us are going to use the entire time!
>
>
LOL That is midnight GMT on the 17th which is 1 a.m. BST on the 1st of 
September. But I wouldn't cut it that fine, myself.

Good luck and welcome. :-)

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> On 6-8-2012 2:40, nemesis wrote:
> > BTW, why not simply a free blog?  Something like tc-rtc.blogspot.com or
> > tc-rtc.wordpress.com?  Administration hurdle is minimal and can be
> > shared between a few select accounts.  Image posting and polls are among
> > the features, plus comment system builtin, etc.
> >
> > With so many cheap free solutions out there for creating and sharing
> > content, I don't see the reason for bothering with a "home page".
>
> Hmmm... an idea I need to think about... In first instance I am not very
> blog-minded, but who knows...

you could create a dummy account just to feel the hang of it.  You could have a
main blog topic about the current competition, a WIP topic to let people post
their images and a poll topic later to decide winners.

The good thing about blogs really is that administration is a breeze (you
basically do nothing besides posting new blog topics when you have to).

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On 06/08/2012 7:00 PM, nemesis wrote:
>> >Hmmm... an idea I need to think about... In first instance I am not very
>> >blog-minded, but who knows...
> you could create a dummy account just to feel the hang of it.  You could have a
> main blog topic about the current competition, a WIP topic to let people post
> their images and a poll topic later to decide winners.
>
> The good thing about blogs really is that administration is a breeze (you
> basically do nothing besides posting new blog topics when you have to).
>
>
I think that the Tena Chep forum could be used for this.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 06/08/2012 7:00 PM, nemesis wrote:
> >> >Hmmm... an idea I need to think about... In first instance I am not very
> >> >blog-minded, but who knows...
> > you could create a dummy account just to feel the hang of it.  You could have a
> > main blog topic about the current competition, a WIP topic to let people post
> > their images and a poll topic later to decide winners.
> >
> > The good thing about blogs really is that administration is a breeze (you
> > basically do nothing besides posting new blog topics when you have to).
> >
> >
> I think that the Tena Chep forum could be used for this.
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen

I admit that my experiences as a web-admin (for a very small site) are long
gone. I remember there was a way to restrain bots but I forgot about the details
completely. Since I never have used or visited a blog I have no idea about their
possibilities. Can they give us all the goodies of a "real" web site? Updating
images, voting for the next topic and can we avoid the disadvantages? Thai or
Russian girls are quite pretty, but I'm not in need of one.

Regards,
Michael

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Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 06/08/2012 7:00 PM, nemesis wrote:
> >> >Hmmm... an idea I need to think about... In first instance I am not very
> >> >blog-minded, but who knows...
> > you could create a dummy account just to feel the hang of it.  You could have a
> > main blog topic about the current competition, a WIP topic to let people post
> > their images and a poll topic later to decide winners.
> >
> > The good thing about blogs really is that administration is a breeze (you
> > basically do nothing besides posting new blog topics when you have to).
> >
> >
> I think that the Tena Chep forum could be used for this.

certainly.  Aside from a text-only presentation, I'm all for forums.

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Thai or
> Russian girls are quite pretty, but I'm not in need of one.
>
> Regards,
> Michael

Forunately, the girls appear as adds in the forum only.

Regards,
Michael

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On 06/08/2012 8:26 PM, TawnyOwl wrote:
> Forunately, the girls appear as adds in the forum only.

They seem to have disappeared ATM and when they were there they were of 
older ladies. o_O

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     Stephen

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On 06/08/2012 8:13 PM, nemesis wrote:
> certainly.  Aside from a text-only presentation, I'm all for forums.

You can link to image shack or the like but the spammers...

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     Stephen

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"jhu" <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> Thomas de Groot <tho### [at] degrootorg> wrote:
> > On 3-8-2012 22:28, BertvdB wrote:
> > > Stil now entrees, where are are all the railroadmodelers, regarding all the
> > > magazines and websites aboout this topic
> > >
> >
> > I was surprised too. However, see what TawnyOwl writes above. He may
> > have point there about visibility.
> >
> > Welcome to the TC-RTC Community by the way :-)
> >
> > Thomas
>
> Entries are due by 8/17. Some of us are going to use the entire time!

Yes, and I'm one of them.

I'm just considering to chance my nick here to adjust it to the abbreviation of
my real name I use with Tina Chep. May be others could think abouut this issue
too...


As I do ever researches about the new topic I just did some researches about the
special kind of railway I will depict in RL yesterday. Riding the "Mammut" and
two other coasters were really a great research work... WOW...

Best regards,
Michael

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On 6-8-2012 21:26, TawnyOwl wrote:
> Thai or
>> Russian girls are quite pretty, but I'm not in need of one.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Michael
>
> Forunately, the girls appear as adds in the forum only.
>

Using Firefox, you can use the Adblock Plus addon. Result: all adds 
disappear.

Thomas

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On 6-8-2012 21:43, Stephen wrote:
> On 06/08/2012 8:13 PM, nemesis wrote:
>> certainly.  Aside from a text-only presentation, I'm all for forums.
>
> You can link to image shack or the like but the spammers...
>

Spamming is a worry although the most of the wave seems to have gone for 
a few months now. Maybe the admins have come up with a better way of 
fighting back.

Thomas

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On 6-8-2012 18:58, jhu wrote:
>
> Entries are due by 8/17. Some of us are going to use the entire time!

Indeed, and that is good :-)

My initial call was to shake things up a bit. Never wrong to post a 
reminder.

Thomas

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On 7-8-2012 9:48, Thomas de Groot wrote:
> Using Firefox, you can use the Adblock Plus addon. Result: all adds
> disappear.

To be more correct: Adblock Plus is an /extension/ to Firefox.

Thomas

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Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
> On 06/08/2012 8:26 PM, TawnyOwl wrote:
> > Forunately, the girls appear as adds in the forum only.
>
> They seem to have disappeared ATM and when they were there they were of
> older ladies. o_O
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen

They didn't disappeared but we are served with adds the web-site thinks we are
want to look at. I have no idea about reading out cookies, but this may be the
reason that some of us see old ladies and others see young. I cannot remember to
have visited any site within the time that I have my actual machine which can
lead them to judge that I might react to the younger ones, but may be they only
judge that I'm male and of some 50 years of age and think that I may be
interested in a young russian or thai girl. Young russians were the adds just
some minutes ago in the forum. The muslim girls appeared only once.

But in fact the adds are only an annoyance and not more. And in this material
world we have to accept them to reduce costs.

Regards,
Michael

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On 6-8-2012 21:13, nemesis wrote:
> Stephen <mcavoys_at@aoldotcom> wrote:
>> On 06/08/2012 7:00 PM, nemesis wrote:
>>>>> Hmmm... an idea I need to think about... In first instance I am not very
>>>>> blog-minded, but who knows...
>>> you could create a dummy account just to feel the hang of it.  You could have a
>>> main blog topic about the current competition, a WIP topic to let people post
>>> their images and a poll topic later to decide winners.
>>>
>>> The good thing about blogs really is that administration is a breeze (you
>>> basically do nothing besides posting new blog topics when you have to).
>>>
>>>
>> I think that the Tena Chep forum could be used for this.
>
> certainly.  Aside from a text-only presentation, I'm all for forums.
>

Two major problems with this option:

1) the images are only visible to members. Making them visible to the 
world ensures risks of spamming if not changing them or switching them.

2) images are not kept on the forum. Try to view images uploaded some 
time ago and you will see that they are not available anymore.

Thomas

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clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Am 17.06.2012 09:00, schrieb Thomas de Groot:
>
> > The new Challenge for July/August 2012 is: Railway.
>
> Hm... I /think/ I'm sort of obliged to join this challenge... time to
> heat up the engine and get the USRA Heavy Santa Fe rolling again.

I was looking forward to that steam engine. Unless you were hacking away at the
Povray 3.7 source code, in which case, carry on.

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Am 18.08.2012 03:22, schrieb jhu:

>> Hm... I /think/ I'm sort of obliged to join this challenge... time to
>> heat up the engine and get the USRA Heavy Santa Fe rolling again.
>
> I was looking forward to that steam engine.

Yeah, me too. But somehow I just couldn't push myself to tackle that 
dragon again.

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