St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:3dc18b38@news.povray.org...
>
>     Heh... 'Life' is a competition Shay. You don't use the best tool going
for you
> to forward yourself in real life?
>

I would never suggest otherwise. I would suggest anyone competing do the
same, *not* the other way around. I think that perhaps I am being
misunderstood on that point.


>        At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter with this
competition does
> it? I see it as fun and tutorial. I would hazard a guess that most people
really
> hope that Gilles (or any other big names has entered) - *just to see what
it is
> that they have to do* to get that number one slot like he has so often.
So, in
> that respect, you're not wrong. I see his Art as a guidance and not a
hinderence
> in any way.
>

I see his art as a guidance as well. Again, I think that I am being
misunderstood. I also always hope that the "big names" enter. I am only
stating that if someone wants to compete at Gilles level then *methodology*
as well as talent and skill will be crucial.

 -Shay

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> But this still does not explain what has happened in March-April 2002...
>
> ;-)


Christoph,

or so.


believing to know every single published image from him).

So please share your knowledge!


Norbert

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just my 2 pennys-worth, but I've always had the impression that Gilles only
enters if his current project matches the current IRTC topic.

jim

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"Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote in message news:3dc18d19$1@news.povray.org...
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> St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:3dc18b38@news.povray.org...
> >
> >     Heh... 'Life' is a competition Shay. You don't use the best tool going
> for you
> > to forward yourself in real life?
> >
>
> I would never suggest otherwise. I would suggest anyone competing do the
> same, *not* the other way around. I think that perhaps I am being
> misunderstood on that point.

    Well, yes, in a text based conversation, it's easy to do sometimes, but I
wrote what I wrote with both comparables in mind just in case and leaned on the
slightly heavier side.  ;)


>
>
> >        At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter with this
> competition does
> > it? I see it as fun and tutorial. I would hazard a guess that most people
> really
> > hope that Gilles (or any other big names has entered) - *just to see what
> it is
> > that they have to do* to get that number one slot like he has so often.
> So, in
> > that respect, you're not wrong. I see his Art as a guidance and not a
> hinderence
> > in any way.
> >
>
> I see his art as a guidance as well. Again, I think that I am being
> misunderstood. I also always hope that the "big names" enter. I am only
> stating that if someone wants to compete at Gilles level then *methodology*
> as well as talent and skill will be crucial.

     Ah. Methodology. A skill in its own right. I think you're right, and I think
it's the crux of the matter in the case of 'this' competition. The thing is,
people want to see skill in whatever form it takes as long as it's legal for the
competition involved.

       But skill is a subjective matter. I have a CG image on my desktop (not by
me), that people almost swoon over when they see it. It's a motorbike, a very
*nice* motorbike. The thing is though, is that I can see all the mistakes, the
scaling mistakes, thickness mistakes, texture mistakes and general mistakes all in
all. I don't dare point them out, but for what it is and the way it looks, I would
say that it would rate fairly high in this comp. if entered.

    Beauty 'is', as always, skin-deep.

      ~Steve~



>
>  -Shay
>
>

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Norbert Kern wrote:
> 
> Christoph,

> or so.

Now what's that supposed to mean...?



> believing to know every single published image from him).
> 
> So please share your knowledge!

I really don't think i have any important knowledge to share in that
matter.

Christoph

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"Norbert Kern" <nor### [at] t-onlinede> wrote in message
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> > But this still does not explain what has happened in March-April 2002...
> >
> ;-)
> Christoph,

joke
> or so.

> recognize any of the entries as another hidden Gilles Tranesque one (and

> believing to know every single published image from him).
>
> So please share your knowledge!
>
>
> Norbert

I think his point was that Gilles won March/April in 2000 and 2001 as well
as Nov/Dec 1999,2000,2001.  Following this trend, where was Gilles in the
March/April round of this year? Christoph's point being that Gilles didn't
win, didn't even enter.

-tgq

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St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:3dc18b38@news.povray.org...
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>      Hope you send yours in.
>

Thanks. I did. 26 *MEGS* of code in the pile of used, discarded, clean,
messy pages collectively known as "the source." I may as well show the
result.

 -Shay

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"Shay" <sah### [at] simcopartscom> wrote in message news:3dc29f0d@news.povray.org...
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> St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:3dc18b38@news.povray.org...
> >
> >      Hope you send yours in.
> >
>
> Thanks. I did. 26 *MEGS* of code in the pile of used, discarded, clean,
> messy pages collectively known as "the source." I may as well show the
> result.

      26 megs? That puts my measly 12 megs to shame!!  :oP

    Good on you Shay, and good luck.

      ~Steve~


>
>  -Shay
>
>

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> just my 2 pennys-worth, but I've always had the impression that Gilles
only
> enters if his current project matches the current IRTC topic.
>

That's sums it up actually. Lots of things got in the way of the IRTC this
year. In March-April, Jaime and I did the ISS image (still not available as
it's presently stuck in a laptop in Durban, South Africa) and after that I
made the mistake of accepting commissioned works. As a result, I'm not too
sure about the November-December round as I have several personal pics on
the back burner that I really want to complete before the end of the year.

G.


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> In March-April, Jaime and I did the ISS image (still not available as
> it's presently stuck in a laptop in Durban, South Africa)

ISS is the International Space Station?
Two great artists like Jaime and you working together
sounds very well.
Can you tell us more about that?.
Bye

Txemi Jendrix
http://www.txemijendrix.com

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