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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 26 Jan 2007 16:28:14
Message: <45ba726e@news.povray.org>
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Here goes nothing:
http://www.asamnet.de/~altendom/irtcstuff/index.html
(Notice for future archive diggers: This address will be
404'd once the real IRTC is again updated... it is not
intended to be permanent.)
If, for now, you want your movie to appear in that list,
too, and you've entered this round of the IRTC animations,
please either send me the files to publish *) or just a link
to the three IRTC files **).
*) This means i need to put them on my webspace. Don't send
your files if you're not OK with that! As for the mail
address, try the one from the news header :)
**) In that case, i'll link to your files. If you remove
them from your webspace, the links will be broken.
-Markus
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From: dbott
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 26 Jan 2007 22:01:40
Message: <45bac094@news.povray.org>
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"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinx de> wrote in message
news:45ba726e@news.povray.org...
> Here goes nothing:
> http://www.asamnet.de/~altendom/irtcstuff/index.html
>
> (Notice for future archive diggers: This address will be
> 404'd once the real IRTC is again updated... it is not
> intended to be permanent.)
>
> If, for now, you want your movie to appear in that list,
> too, and you've entered this round of the IRTC animations,
> please either send me the files to publish *) or just a link
> to the three IRTC files **).
>
> *) This means i need to put them on my webspace. Don't send
> your files if you're not OK with that! As for the mail
> address, try the one from the news header :)
>
> **) In that case, i'll link to your files. If you remove
> them from your webspace, the links will be broken.
>
> -Markus
Ok Markus -
I just emailed you my animation submission. Like I said, this is my
first time. Tell me what you think......I know I could have added
a lot more detail.....I watched yours, and you kicked my ass.
So can you tell me why your 9.5 meg animation is 5 times longer
than my 9.5 meg animation. Do you use a compression program?
Just trying to find answers and learn...........
dbott
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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 27 Jan 2007 06:43:07
Message: <45bb3acb$1@news.povray.org>
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dbott wrote:
> Ok Markus -
> I just emailed you my animation submission. Like I said, this is my
> first time. Tell me what you think......I know I could have added
> a lot more detail.....I watched yours, and you kicked my ass.
> So can you tell me why your 9.5 meg animation is 5 times longer
> than my 9.5 meg animation. Do you use a compression program?
> Just trying to find answers and learn...........
Usually, i'm rendering out the frames as 720x360 (720 means
it's not going to be re-scaled, just letterboxed when it
goes to DVD, which has 720x576 size).
I'm a mac guy, so this is a quicktime .mov file, with jpeg
at maximum quality. About 600 MB for 3:44. I export that to
DV stream AVI, and copy it over to my PC (haven't found a
well-working MPEG compressor for mac yet...).
I run that file through TMPEGenc (which has a very
unscrupulous setting of 320 kbits/sec for video + 32
kbit/sec mono audio) with an output size of 320x160). I try
to ignore the horrible compression artefacts :) and that's
about it.
Without a soundtrack, you may go to 360 kbit video for 9.99
MB at 3:44.
I've picked that time when i was using Astarte's M.Pack,
which had a lowest possible 360 kBit preset for that. Ah,
the days of MacOS 9... long gone, as is M.Pack.
-Markus
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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 27 Jan 2007 10:30:40
Message: <45bb7020@news.povray.org>
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dbott wrote:
> "Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinx de> wrote in message
> news:45ba726e@news.povray.org...
>> Here goes nothing:
>> http://www.asamnet.de/~altendom/irtcstuff/index.html
OK, David "dbott" Cuny's "Dancing with Moai" is available now.
-Markus
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From: dbott
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 27 Jan 2007 12:19:09
Message: <45bb898d$1@news.povray.org>
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"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinx de> wrote in message
news:45bb7020@news.povray.org...
> dbott wrote:
> > "Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinx de> wrote in
message
> > news:45ba726e@news.povray.org...
> >> Here goes nothing:
> >> http://www.asamnet.de/~altendom/irtcstuff/index.html
>
> OK, David "dbott" Cuny's "Dancing with Moai" is available now.
>
> -Markus
oops --
That's not me. dbott is "Darin"........I emailed my 3 files in win zip,
did you receive them? And, thank you for the explanation on the way
you produce your animation. If you did not receive my files,
I will email a link where you can download them.
Thanx dbott
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From: dbott
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 27 Jan 2007 13:08:05
Message: <45bb9505$1@news.povray.org>
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"dbott" <dbo### [at] eastsoundsuites com> wrote in message
news:45bb898d$1@news.povray.org...
>
> "Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinx de> wrote in message
> news:45bb7020@news.povray.org...
> > dbott wrote:
> > > "Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinx de> wrote in
> message
> > > news:45ba726e@news.povray.org...
> > >> Here goes nothing:
> > >> http://www.asamnet.de/~altendom/irtcstuff/index.html
> >
> > OK, David "dbott" Cuny's "Dancing with Moai" is available now.
> >
> > -Markus
>
> oops --
> That's not me. dbott is "Darin"........I emailed my 3 files in win zip,
> did you receive them? And, thank you for the explanation on the way
> you produce your animation. If you did not receive my files,
> I will email a link where you can download them.
>
> Thanx dbott
>
>
Markus
I set up a page where you can get the 3 filles. It is
http://www.eastsoundsuites.com/animation
Thank you...dbott
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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 27 Jan 2007 16:30:01
Message: <45bbc459@news.povray.org>
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dbott wrote:
> oops --
> That's not me. dbott is "Darin"........I emailed my 3 files in win zip,
> did you receive them? And, thank you for the explanation on the way
> you produce your animation. If you did not receive my files,
> I will email a link where you can download them.
Alright, i'm fetching them now. Should be up in ten minutes.
Sorry for the name mix-up, i've not yet received your zip
file. I guess my mailbox isn't half as tough as i thought,
or the zip has triggered some over-zealous antivirus blocker
- come to think about it, if a run-of-the-mill 50 kByte
virus is nasty, imagine the havoc a 10-MB-virus could wreak ;)
-Markus
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Hi, Markus
Thanks for hosting the files.
-- David "dcuny" Cuny
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From: dbott
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 27 Jan 2007 22:51:11
Message: <45bc1daf@news.povray.org>
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"Markus Altendorff" <maa### [at] anthrosphinx de> wrote in message
news:45bbc459@news.povray.org...
> dbott wrote:
>
> > oops --
> > That's not me. dbott is "Darin"........I emailed my 3 files in win zip,
> > did you receive them? And, thank you for the explanation on the way
> > you produce your animation. If you did not receive my files,
> > I will email a link where you can download them.
>
> Alright, i'm fetching them now. Should be up in ten minutes.
> Sorry for the name mix-up, i've not yet received your zip
> file. I guess my mailbox isn't half as tough as i thought,
> or the zip has triggered some over-zealous antivirus blocker
> - come to think about it, if a run-of-the-mill 50 kByte
> virus is nasty, imagine the havoc a 10-MB-virus could wreak ;)
>
> -Markus
Cool - Thank you Markus,
It's nice to see it there. Well a pseudo irtc page is better than nothing.
What's up with this guy http://billmarrs.com/ - he is on the irtc
admin team and has an active web page. Has anyone talk to him?
Once again thanx, the page looks great.....
dbott
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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 28 Jan 2007 03:46:36
Message: <45bc62ec@news.povray.org>
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dbott wrote:
> It's nice to see it there. Well a pseudo irtc page is better than nothing.
> What's up with this guy http://billmarrs.com/ - he is on the irtc
> admin team and has an active web page. Has anyone talk to him?
I've sent a mail. He's updating his LiveJournal entry rather regularly,
so i'm hoping we'll hear back from him soon.
-Markus
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Me wrote (replying to a message from dbott in another thread
about contacting Bill Marrs):
> I've sent a mail. He's updating his LiveJournal entry rather regularly,
> so i'm hoping we'll hear back from him soon.
I've received his reply (wow, that was quick), but he's not
had any contact with the IRTC/admins at all for almost two
years now, and really doesn't want to get re-involved (and i
fully understand - check his LiveJournal, i guess he has
enough at hands already, and his priorities set
differently). He suggested we might need to talk to the
"master admins" (i.e. POVray.org) about the situation.
Comments?
-Markus
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I've been following this (and the stills thread). If I understand correctly:
* Both the Stills and Animation rounds are weeks overdue.
* There appears to only be a single IRTC admin.
* The IRTC admin hasn't responded to email, the mailing list, or this list.
Is that right? It seems odd that there's not even a backup admin for the
contest.
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"David Cuny" <dcu### [at] lanset com> wrote in message
news:web.45bce760678d470cb55da6960@news.povray.org...
> I've been following this (and the stills thread). If I understand
correctly:
>
> * Both the Stills and Animation rounds are weeks overdue.
> * There appears to only be a single IRTC admin.
> * The IRTC admin hasn't responded to email, the mailing list, or this
list.
>
> Is that right? It seems odd that there's not even a backup admin for the
> contest.
>
>
David -
I think it is one person and he is done with it.......
Hence the beginning of the year.
dbott
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"dbott" <dbo### [at] eastsoundsuites com> wrote:
> "David Cuny" <dcu### [at] lanset com> wrote in message
> news:web.45bce760678d470cb55da6960@news.povray.org...
> > I've been following this (and the stills thread). If I understand
> correctly:
> >
> > * Both the Stills and Animation rounds are weeks overdue.
> > * There appears to only be a single IRTC admin.
> > * The IRTC admin hasn't responded to email, the mailing list, or this
> list.
> >
> > Is that right? It seems odd that there's not even a backup admin for the
> > contest.
> >
> >
>
> David -
> I think it is one person and he is done with it.......
> Hence the beginning of the year.
> dbott
Let us hope nothing happend to him ...
Bruno
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Markus,
Tried sending you my entry but gmail says the delivery is delayed, is
45ba726e@news.povray.org the correct e-mail address (I assumed the
newsgroup software forwards it on to the real private e-mail).
Cheers
Rob
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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 29 Jan 2007 08:46:19
Message: <45bdfaab@news.povray.org>
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i_need_a_unique_name wrote:
> Tried sending you my entry but gmail says the delivery is delayed, is
> 45ba726e@news.povray.org the correct e-mail address (I assumed the
> newsgroup software forwards it on to the real private e-mail).
That is *not* an email address but a newsgroup message id ... naturally, you
cannot send email to a message id.
Thorsten
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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 29 Jan 2007 09:40:16
Message: <45be0750@news.povray.org>
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i_need_a_unique_name schrieb:
> Markus,
>
> Tried sending you my entry but gmail says the delivery is delayed, is
> 45ba726e@news.povray.org the correct e-mail address (I assumed the
> newsgroup software forwards it on to the real private e-mail).
I guess not... ;) try irtc @ panoramas.de (isn't the sender's address
displayed in the message view of newsreaders? I'm using Thunderbird, but
i may have been too assuming in what's usually displayed and what not...)
-Markus
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> displayed in the message view of newsreaders? I'm using Thunderbird, but
I was using the povray web page to view these news links, only e-mail
address was that newsgroup id ... zoiks 14 years in the IT industry and I
can still sometimes comeout looking like a noob... ;-)
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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 29 Jan 2007 17:06:27
Message: <45be6fe3$1@news.povray.org>
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i_need_a_unique_name wrote:
>
> I was using the povray web page to view these news links, only e-mail
> address was that newsgroup id ... zoiks 14 years in the IT industry and I
> can still sometimes comeout looking like a noob... ;-)
Isn't that supposed to be spelled "n00b"? ;)
OK, we're up to six previews for Oct-Jan now!
<quiet>Rusty...?</quiet>
I went all fancy CSS and stuff on the preview page (well, a
little), so please drop me a note if it's now "b0rken" in
your browser (it shouldn't, but these days, you never know),
in which case i'll go back to basics.
http://www.asamnet.de/~altendom/irtcstuff/20070115/index.php
-Markus
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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 29 Jan 2007 20:01:15
Message: <45be98db@news.povray.org>
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Markus Altendorff wrote:
> <quiet>Rusty...?</quiet>
In the mail.
Regards,
John
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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 30 Jan 2007 02:48:35
Message: <45bef853$1@news.povray.org>
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John VanSickle wrote:
> Markus Altendorff wrote:
>
>> <quiet>Rusty...?</quiet>
>
> In the mail.
Aaand - on the web! I guess this is the one we've all been waiting
for... (no offense to all others, but in my brain, when i think of IRTC,
i see robots moving around ;)
<giggle>Ha! Was the first one to get to look at it!</giggle>
http://www.asamnet.de/~altendom/irtcstuff/20070115/index.php
(it's at the bottom of the list - sorry, alphabetical order can do that
to files starting with "r"...)
(and i took the liberty to rename it from "rusty" to "rusty032" - trying
to keep it with the IRTC's "incoming" filenames)
<spoiler>(and, well, watching it closely, you can actually see the
un-pixelized shadow of a naked ladybot...) </spoiler>
There. If that isn't going to trash my bandwidth, nothing will. :)
-M
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From: Markus Altendorff
Subject: Re: I've started a preview-viewing page. Oh woe me... ;)
Date: 31 Jan 2007 16:10:42
Message: <45c105d2$1@news.povray.org>
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Hi,
first, a big "thank you" to all that gave me permission to
show their files. As i said when i began the preview page,
i'm going to close it once the IRTC is back.
Well, it is, and so i did :)
I'm not quite sure what to make of the IRTC hiatus or the
non-voting for the round, but whatever helps the admins will
be OK, i guess.
Going to take a look at the stills now...
-Markus
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