Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> > > I don't think capitalism implies such discrimination,
>
> > No, but unfettered capitalism allows it. If enough people want it, and it's
> > legal, it'll happen.  I don't think that means capitalism causes racism.
>
>   I don't understand how an economic model causes racial discrimination.
>
>   If capitalism can cause racial discrimination, why wouldn't, for example,
> communism do the same?
>

  My solution as I stated before is the marketplace *PLUS* lots of nagging.

I've praised Capitalism a few times now by saying it's the best system for
giving  people what they want. Sometimes they want bad things, like to be able
to smoke in restaurants where children are present. As for the American South,
some discrimination was foisted upon those without hate by the state; more often
those with hate used the marketplace to press for discrimination. Civil rights
activists like Millard Fuller wrote of the boycott of black business as a tool
of the racists; the activists became involved haranguing people about where to
shop.

Chocolate.  Blind capitalism gave us widespread use of slave labor. Through the
marketplace, you kept saying, give me cheaper, give me cheaper, until
eventually no corner was left to cut but the farmworker's wages.  The answer is
not necessarily the State here but nagging. Activists harangued the importers to
stop using slave labor;  then harangued people of good will to buy from the
importers who showed more good will than the others in rectifying the situation.


The socialism/ capitalism dilemma is shown here in the famous opening credit for
the Odd Couple:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odd_Couple_(TV_series)
Felix is not calling the cops, he is not sending Oscar to a prison camp. He is
however harassing, nagging Oscar about having thrown a cigarette butt on the
ground.  The look of disgust from Oscar is probably the same you'd get if you
nagged someone about smoking in a restaurant where children are present, about
the MPG of the car they purchased, the age of the "actors" in the DVD they
purchased,  what kind of wages were paid the bean-pickers with the chocolate
they purchased. It is the look of Southerners seeing nonviolent activists
driving over the border to tell them how to live with blacks.

Q: When Texas passed a "beef blasphemy" law, under which Oprah Winfrey was sued
for making criticisms of an agricultural process, was  law that a liberal or
conservative one,  was it capitalistic or socialistic?   How about when New York
state flirted with a law that would have forbidden farmers from telling
consumers whether they used growth hormones on the cows?

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