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6 Sep 2024 21:18:43 EDT (-0400)
  Re: Physics, relativity, quantum, etc.  
From: clipka
Date: 24 Jan 2009 08:30:00
Message: <web.497b16a2c995525d44fa40c50@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
> > He can: He can send light pulses to him. And the poor victim can send light
> > pulses back.
>
>   No he can't. The light pulses sent by the external observer won't ever
> reach the falling object, from the external observer's point of view, for
> the exact same reason that it looks to him like the falling object never
> crosses the EH.

Just believe me (or figure out for yourselves): He can...

>   The falling object won't be able to send anything back because he is
> inside the EH.

.... because he isn't.

I'll draw a picture today, to illustrate what's going on with that warped
spacetime. I thought you should know about that, if only for the sake of your
nick ;)

The key to understanding is that a second is not a second. Delta-t is not
universal (just like distance isn't), but rather depends on the frame of
reference.

Likening some time dilation effects to "after-image" effects may make them more
"digestible" to laymen than having them try to imagine how a second cannot be a
second, but it's not *precisely* what's going on.


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