On 7 Sep 2003 09:11:25 -0400, Marc Champagne <marcch.AT.videotron.DOT.ca>
wrote:
> What does POV do on startup that would explain all this scratching?

Loads content and images for Insert menu? IIRC POV-Ray rereads them every time
Windowses send message that something was changed in Insert Menu folder. For
example making http://www.abx.art.pl/pov/bonus I found that introducing large
changes in Insert Menu folder and having POV-Ray run at the same time slows
down switching to POV-Ray a lot.

ABX

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in news:Xns### [at] 204213191226 Marc Champagne wrote:

> I have been experiencing long delays when launching POV for windows, it
> take anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 seconds before it has "loaded" and
> is ready to use. 
> 

switch of your virus monitor / scanner, at least that what causes the 
startup delay on my machine. You also wan't to switch virusscanners of 
when generating / parsing large mesh and when using radiosity and photons.

Ingo

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"Tom Galvin" <tom### [at] imporg> wrote in message
news:Xns### [at] 204213191226...
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in news:3f5b959c@news.povray.org:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >      I'm getting exactly the same. Sometimes the 'splash' image
just
> > hangs there for some time too...
> >
> >    ~Steve~
> >
>
> Did you test out the OpenGL POV-Ray patch?

   No, I haven't. What is that Tom?

 I had the same problem even
> after removing it from my system.  I had to uninstall the Offical
POV-Ray
> and reinstall it to solve the issue.

   I think I'll try uninstalling and see what happens. Thanks.

    ~Steve~


>
>
> -- 
> Tom
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"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in news:3f5cc12f@news.povray.org:

> 
> 
>    No, I haven't. What is that Tom?
> 


http://www.daylongraphics.com/other/povray/patches/index.htm

My problem was with an early version.  I have not tested the latest 
releases.


-- 
Tom
_________________________________
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http://www.imp.org/

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"Tom Galvin" <tom### [at] imporg> wrote in message
news:Xns### [at] 204213191226...
> "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in news:3f5cc12f@news.povray.org:

> http://www.daylongraphics.com/other/povray/patches/index.htm
>
> My problem was with an early version.  I have not tested the latest
> releases.

   Hmm, thanks, it looks enticing and helpful.

    ~Steve~


>
>
> -- 
> Tom
> _________________________________
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> http://www.imp.org/

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ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in
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>> in news:Xns### [at] 204213191226 Marc Champagne wrote:
>> 
>> I have been experiencing long delays when launching POV for windows, it
>> take anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 seconds before it has "loaded" and
>> is ready to use. 
 
 
> switch of your virus monitor / scanner, at least that what causes the 
> startup delay on my machine. You also wan't to switch virusscanners of 
> when generating / parsing large mesh and when using radiosity and
> photons. 

Humm, I will give that a try after next reboot.

-- 
Marc Champagne
marcch.AT.videotron.DOT.ca
Montreal, CANADA

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in news:Xns### [at] 204213191226 Marc Champagne wrote:

> Humm, I will give that a try after next reboot.
> 

Isn't it possible to disable your virusscanner without rebooting? I do it 
all the time.

Ingo

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ingo <ing### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in
news:Xns### [at] netplexaussieorg: 

> in news:Xns### [at] 204213191226 Marc Champagne wrote:
> 
>> Humm, I will give that a try after next reboot.
>> 
> 
> Isn't it possible to disable your virusscanner without rebooting? I do
> it all the time.

Yes it is.

One thing I know for sure is that on a fresh boot, after windows has
finished scratching and has become calm, if I start POV it takes 2 minutes
to load. 

So I will disable AV and try loading POV to see if it has any impact.

Good idea!

Thanks

-- 
Marc Champagne
marcch.AT.videotron.DOT.ca
Montreal, CANADA

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You can check this too:
1) You can type CHKDSK /F, on Start->Run... if asked (Y/N) type Y, if
you suspect from HD hardware failure add an /R to the the command
line to check the entire surface of the disk, reboot to see if your file
system is OK.
2) At least Service Pack 2 has to be installed of your Windows 2000, i
recommend you install the latest, Service Pack 4, from Microsoft.com, is
about 128.8 MB. This could improve your system speed.
3) Check for virus. Extra disk activity on all files of your PC can be
caused by a virus infection, Make sure your anti virus is up to date and
to make sure you can check your HD on a virus-free system, sometimes
when you have a virus the AV can't get it out from the system.
4) Erase temporary files, from Internet Browser(s) and Windows 2000, 
then, if you can, Defrag it.
5) Get a good Disk Cache Utility, i'm using CacheBoost 4 Professional
and it has improved my Windows 2000 performance, you can Download the
Enterprise version if you have HEAVY WORKLOADS at 
http://www.systweak.com/ or at 
http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=cacheboost&tg=dl-2001&search=+Go%21+. 

This program also optimizes usage of memory, defrags it, and unloads
unnecessary assigned memory and you have fine tune options from Tune 
Windows button.

If none of this help, call tech support and have your system check.
God bless you and help you solve your problem.
Best Regards.

Saul

Marc Champagne wrote:

>Hi Folks,
>
>I have been experiencing long delays when launching POV for windows, it
>take anywhere from 30 seconds to 90 seconds before it has "loaded" and
>is ready to use. 
>
>During this time there is lots of HD activity (scratching).
>
>The HD's are regularly defragged.
>
>For what it's worth, I have Win 2000, 1 gigahertz, 512k ram, plenty of
>disk space.
>
>This happens with and without scenes loaded and is usually on first
>launch after being closed for a while, subsequent loads are quick.
>
>What does POV do on startup that would explain all this scratching?
>
>Thanks
>
>  
>

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Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote in
news:3f5f37f0@news.povray.org: 

>   You can check this too:
> 1) You can type CHKDSK /F, on Start->Run... if asked (Y/N) type Y, if
> you suspect from HD hardware failure add an /R to the the command
> line to check the entire surface of the disk, reboot to see if your file
> system is OK.
> 2) At least Service Pack 2 has to be installed of your Windows 2000, i
> recommend you install the latest, Service Pack 4, from Microsoft.com, is
> about 128.8 MB. This could improve your system speed.
> 3) Check for virus. Extra disk activity on all files of your PC can be
> caused by a virus infection, Make sure your anti virus is up to date and
> to make sure you can check your HD on a virus-free system, sometimes
> when you have a virus the AV can't get it out from the system.
> 4) Erase temporary files, from Internet Browser(s) and Windows 2000, 
> then, if you can, Defrag it.
> 5) Get a good Disk Cache Utility, i'm using CacheBoost 4 Professional
> and it has improved my Windows 2000 performance, you can Download the
> Enterprise version if you have HEAVY WORKLOADS at 
> http://www.systweak.com/ or at 
> http://download.com.com/3120-20-0.html?qt=cacheboost&tg=dl-2001&search=+G
> o%21+. 
> 
> This program also optimizes usage of memory, defrags it, and unloads
> unnecessary assigned memory and you have fine tune options from Tune 
> Windows button.
> 
> If none of this help, call tech support and have your system check.
> God bless you and help you solve your problem.
> Best Regards.

Thanks for your suggestions, but all these steps are not needed as they
are always taken care of or up to date.

I will look into your cache utility though...

The actual problem seems to be norton anti-virus.

Thanks

Marc

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