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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 03:39:31
Message: <3E646643.58E25CC7@gmx.de>
ABX wrote:
> 
> app.       | compiler    | GUI | P-II | PIII |
> -----------+-------------+-----+------+------+
> povray 3.5 | intel       | win | 2740 |  815 |
> megapov    | djgpp(gcc)  | dos | 2865 |  852 |
> megapov    | mingw(gcc)  | con | 2909 |  872 |
> megapov    | open watcom | con | 4094 | 1234 |
> megapov    | borland 5.5 | win | 4407 | 1332 |
> megapov    | dmc         | con | 4907 | 1454 |
> 

That list looks quite realistic now.  I miss the MSVC megapov verstion
though.

Christoph

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From: Nathan Letwory
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 03:52:11
Message: <3e64693b$1@news.povray.org>
Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
> In article <ou566vgg0gqih2vvlsovillshbf09t7r4g@4ax.com> , ABX 
> <abx### [at] abxartpl>  wrote:
> 
> 
>>app.       | compiler    | GUI | P-II | PIII |
>>-----------+-------------+-----+------+------+
>>povray 3.5 | intel       | win | 2740 |  815 |
>>megapov    | djgpp(gcc)  | dos | 2865 |  852 |
>>megapov    | mingw(gcc)  | con | 2909 |  872 |
>>megapov    | open watcom | con | 4094 | 1234 |
>>megapov    | borland 5.5 | win | 4407 | 1332 |
>>megapov    | dmc         | con | 4907 | 1454 |
> 
> 
> IIRC, Intel offers a trial version download of ICC, and the Linux version is
> free (I think).  So you might want to see if it isn't only a problem of bad
> compilers...

http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/ --> All version are 
with a price tag. There is the evaluation version, though, for thirty days.

-Nathan


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 04:35:06
Message: <7js86vomqspqbbn17t643nqn9ebk5dde6e@4ax.com>
On 3 Mar 2003 18:04:28 -0500, Safari <y7p### [at] sneakemailcom> wrote:
> did you use profiling with ICC?

No. I used official binaries. I do not think I can use profiling over ready
binaries. I need recompile them with profiling settings which changes sense of
testing official binaries.

ABX


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From: Thomas Willhalm
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 04:35:41
Message: <3e64736d@news.povray.org>
Nathan Letwory wrote:

> Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
>> IIRC, Intel offers a trial version download of ICC, and the Linux version
>> is
>> free (I think).  So you might want to see if it isn't only a problem of
>> bad compilers...
> 
> http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/ --> All version are
> with a price tag. There is the evaluation version, though, for thirty
> days.

If you look at the evaluation version for Linux, you discover the free
unsupported version for uncommercial use:
http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/clin/noncom.htm
I agree however that Intel has gone a good job in hiding this gift.

Greetings
Thomas


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From: Nathan Letwory
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 04:37:55
Message: <3e6473f3$1@news.povray.org>
Thomas Willhalm wrote:
> Nathan Letwory wrote:
> 
> 
>>Thorsten Froehlich wrote:
>>
>>>IIRC, Intel offers a trial version download of ICC, and the Linux version
>>>is
>>>free (I think).  So you might want to see if it isn't only a problem of
>>>bad compilers...
>>
>>http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/ --> All version are
>>with a price tag. There is the evaluation version, though, for thirty
>>days.
> 
> 
> If you look at the evaluation version for Linux, you discover the free
> unsupported version for uncommercial use:
> http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/clin/noncom.htm
> I agree however that Intel has gone a good job in hiding this gift.
> 
> Greetings
> Thomas

Great, thanks. I thought I had browsed all the links, but apparently not :)

-Nathan


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 04:51:47
Message: <u0t86v4o0t05ed6p0n0nqmkecn05vdu50n@4ax.com>
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:30:02 +0100, "Thorsten Froehlich" <tho### [at] trfde>
wrote:
> IIRC, Intel offers a trial version download of ICC, and the Linux version is
> free (I think).  So you might want to see if it isn't only a problem of bad
> compilers...

I think there is a payment for full Linux version but I have Intel compiler in
plans. But having two active children can't test more than one compiler per
month. I leaved those with trials for the end because evaluation times cause I
should have testing enviroment ready and tested then.

BTW, Thorsten this is off topic but that ASCII table I made in this thread
doesn't work on www. Horizontal line is visible when you quoted me at
http://news.povray.org/3e64640e%241%40news.povray.org
but disappear in my originall post
http://news.povray.org/ou566vgg0gqih2vvlsovillshbf09t7r4g%404ax.com
That's not important but can be unexpected. As well as why dot is entity.

ABX


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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 07:02:54
Message: <3e6495ee$1@news.povray.org>
In article <3e64693b$1@news.povray.org> , Nathan Letwory 
<jes### [at] KINGKONG-letworynet>  wrote:

> http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/ --> All version are
> with a price tag. There is the evaluation version, though, for thirty days.

Of course! Seems like Intel doesn't advertise it, but for POV-Ray is is
acceptable:
<http://www.intel.com/software/products/compilers/clin/noncom.htm>

    Thorsten

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From: Thorsten Froehlich
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 07:04:30
Message: <3e64964e@news.povray.org>
In article <u0t86v4o0t05ed6p0n0nqmkecn05vdu50n@4ax.com> , ABX 
<abx### [at] abxartpl>  wrote:

> BTW, Thorsten this is off topic but that ASCII table I made in this thread
> doesn't work on www. Horizontal line is visible when you quoted me at
> http://news.povray.org/3e64640e%241%40news.povray.org
> but disappear in my originall post
> http://news.povray.org/ou566vgg0gqih2vvlsovillshbf09t7r4g%404ax.com
> That's not important but can be unexpected. As well as why dot is entity.

Yes, that is normal.  It is mistaken for an attachment separator in munpack
:-(

    Thorsten

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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 4 Mar 2003 14:17:08
Message: <igu96vofr28dk7gkahnbejm6dpukstoa2n@4ax.com>
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:07:19 +0100, ABX <abx### [at] abxartpl> wrote:
> megapov    | borland 5.5 | win | 4407 | 1332 |

I just finalized borland c++ builder 6.0 compilation and it is worse then free
5.5 compilation. 5350 vs. 4429 seconds with binaries generated from the same
makefile (the same compiler switches). I suppose nothing more can be reached
with any version of borland.

ABX


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From: ABX
Subject: Re: Watcom joined family
Date: 28 Mar 2003 06:53:56
Message: <pld88vsrum9312rga7gccjshie61hktoev@4ax.com>
On Tue, 04 Mar 2003 09:39:31 +0100, Christoph Hormann <chr### [at] gmxde>
wrote:
> > megapov    | djgpp(gcc)  | dos | 2865 |  852 |
> > megapov    | mingw(gcc)  | con | 2909 |  872 |
>
> That list looks quite realistic now.

I wonder if http://www.nat.org/grope.pdf could help. Anybody tried or this is
already implemented in compilers ?

Anybody investigated influence of
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/vccore/html/vcgrfGLWholeProgramOptimization.asp
in Visual C++ ?

ABX


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