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From: Shalom Naumann
Subject: Weird installation instructions
Date: 11 Jun 2004 13:31:44
Message: <40c9ec80@news.povray.org>
Is there a reason why the installation instructions 
(http://www.povray.org/download/linux.php) recommend creating a special 
directory in which to put the downloaded .tgz file? And also (though I 
know that version 3.6's code isn't out yet), the Generic Source version 
should be directly linked from the Unix section, because many Linux 
users (such as myself - I compiled LinuxFromScratch) like to install 
everything from the source and may not realise that the downloaded .tgz 
isn't the source.

Shalom Naumann


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From: Shalom Naumann
Subject: Re: Weird installation instructions
Date: 11 Jun 2004 13:35:31
Message: <40c9ed63$1@news.povray.org>
Also, why doesn't make install copy the binary?


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From: Christoph Hormann
Subject: Re: Weird installation instructions
Date: 11 Jun 2004 13:55:02
Message: <cacrh8$2vd$1@chho.imagico.de>
Shalom Naumann wrote:
> Is there a reason why the installation instructions 
> (http://www.povray.org/download/linux.php) recommend creating a special 
> directory in which to put the downloaded .tgz file? 

These instructions are especially for beginners.  Therefore it is 
necessary to say where to save the file (just saying 'somewhere' would 
confuse).  Saving and unpacking the package in $HOME would interfere 
with the installation (which creates a ~/povray-3.6).

> And also (though I 
> know that version 3.6's code isn't out yet), the Generic Source version 
> should be directly linked from the Unix section, because many Linux 
> users (such as myself - I compiled LinuxFromScratch) like to install 
> everything from the source and may not realise that the downloaded .tgz 
> isn't the source.

Right at the beginning of the download page 
(http://www.povray.org/download/) it says:

"This page will provide you with links to the official POV-Ray version 
3.6 binaries and support files."

and right next to the download link for the linux binary version there 
is the "POV-Ray Source Code" box.

To me this seems perfectly sufficient for everyone who wants the source 
to find it and not to mistake the povlinux package as a source distribution.

Also note that for every Linux/x86 user the official binary version is 
the recommended way of installing POV-Ray.

Christoph

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From: Nicolas Calimet
Subject: Re: Weird installation instructions
Date: 15 Jun 2004 06:45:48
Message: <40ced35b@news.povray.org>
> Saving and unpacking the package in $HOME would interfere
> with the installation (which creates a ~/povray-3.6).

        Maybe to clarify Christoph's point here (unless he meant
something else): the installation creates a ~/.povray/3.6 directory.
Note the leading dot which usually "hides" the directory when
listing the content of the home dir.  Downloading and unpacking
the povlinux-3.6.tgz package in a temporary directory is just a
mean to avoid confusion between (i) the ./povray-3.6/ directory
created while unpacking and (ii) the ~/.povray/3.6 directory
created while installing.

>> the Generic Source version
>> should be directly linked from the Unix section

        Presumably you're talking about the current physical
location of the 3.5 source package on the povray FTP server,
ftp://ftp.povray.org/pub/povray/Old-Versions/Official-3.5/Unix/povuni_s.tgz
which is actually a link to the source archive located under
the Linux directory.
        Indeed I consider this a good point.  The generic source
code is, by definition, not limited to GNU/Linux so it makes sense
to place the file directly in the Unix/ directory on the server.
Hopefully this is what will be done for the 3.6 source package.
Note that the package name will also be more explicit (ie it'll
be most likely "povray-3.6.tar.gz").

        - NC


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