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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 14:17:40
Message: <49b40bc4$1@news.povray.org>
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewAboutUs.do

http://www.one.org/

If you have any spare core(s)/CPU(s) please help to help, is for 
Humanity sake, thank you.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 14:20:30
Message: <49b40c6e$1@news.povray.org>
Forgot this link http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/index.jsp

Cheers.


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 17:33:28
Message: <49b439a8$1@news.povray.org>
On 3/8/2009 11:18 AM, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewAboutUs.do
>
> http://www.one.org/
>
> If you have any spare core(s)/CPU(s) please help to help, is for
> Humanity sake, thank you.

When I have spare cores/CPUs, I power them down.  Once I get my roof 
coated in solar cells, with a windfarm behind my house, and I'm selling 
power back to the grid despite running everything 24/7, THEN I'll 
consider giving away my CPU time.

As it is, my power bill is too expensive :(

-- 
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 17:45:15
Message: <49b43c6b$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:

> As it is, my power bill is too expensive :(

My mum is always complaining at me about my PC using too much power.

...on the other hand, my PC uses a *maximum* of 650W. It cannot use any 
more power than that. Most of the time, it uses more like 100W. So, 
about as much as a single light bulb. You wanna guess how many light 
bulbs there are in this house??

And let us not forget, running the kettle uses THREE THOUSAND FIVE 
HUNDRED WATTS. So, at much as 35 light bulbs. I am unable to measure the 
electric shower (since it's hard-wired), but I anticipate a similar 
value. The kettle, the toaster, the washing machine, the tumble drier... 
all use at least ten times the piffling amount my PC uses.

(I played CSS for 2 hours straight, and that used 0.17 kWh. But running 
the washing machine for a normal cycle used twice that. And the 
dishwasher used three and a half times more again.)

Seriously. A PC is not a real high-power device. If you want to lower 
your bills, look for anything that makes stuff hot. (Lighting, heating, 
washing, etc.)

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 17:53:17
Message: <49b43e4d@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga wrote:
> http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewAboutUs.do
> 
> http://www.one.org/
> 
> If you have any spare core(s)/CPU(s) please help to help, is for
> Humanity sake, thank you.

I run a dozen other BOINC-based projects, and contribute to its code :)


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 18:17:56
Message: <49B44412.2020701@hotmail.com>
On 8-3-2009 22:45, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
> 
>> As it is, my power bill is too expensive :(
> 
> My mum is always complaining at me about my PC using too much power.
> 
> ...on the other hand, my PC uses a *maximum* of 650W. It cannot use any 
> more power than that. Most of the time, it uses more like 100W. So, 
> about as much as a single light bulb. You wanna guess how many light 
> bulbs there are in this house??
> 
> And let us not forget, running the kettle uses THREE THOUSAND FIVE 
> HUNDRED WATTS. So, at much as 35 light bulbs. I am unable to measure the 
> electric shower (since it's hard-wired), but I anticipate a similar 
> value. The kettle, the toaster, the washing machine, the tumble drier... 
> all use at least ten times the piffling amount my PC uses.
> 
> (I played CSS for 2 hours straight, and that used 0.17 kWh. But running 
> the washing machine for a normal cycle used twice that. And the 
> dishwasher used three and a half times more again.)
> 
> Seriously. A PC is not a real high-power device. If you want to lower 
> your bills, look for anything that makes stuff hot. (Lighting, heating, 
> washing, etc.)

Are you cooking electric? How do you heat your house?

Anyway, there is this problem that your PC may be on for periods much 
longer that the washing machine.


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 18:20:00
Message: <web.49b44421e57dbb0834d207310@news.povray.org>
Saul Luizaga <sau### [at] netscapenet> wrote:
> http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewAboutUs.do
>
> http://www.one.org/
>
> If you have any spare core(s)/CPU(s) please help to help, is for
> Humanity sake, thank you.

I was encouraged to install this app on my workplace box-- a laptop-- by my
employer. I have to put my laptop into standby mode about a half times a day.
I found that the WCG system never woke up from the coma after these standby's.
 I eventually un-installed it.


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 18:37:57
Message: <49b448c5$1@news.povray.org>
"Chambers" <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote in message
news:49b439a8$1@news.povray.org...
> On 3/8/2009 11:18 AM, Saul Luizaga wrote:
> > http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/about_us/viewAboutUs.do

> > http://www.one.org/
> >
> > If you have any spare core(s)/CPU(s) please help to help, is for
> > Humanity sake, thank you.
>
> When I have spare cores/CPUs, I power them down.  Once I get my roof
> coated in solar cells, with a windfarm behind my house, and I'm selling
> power back to the grid despite running everything 24/7, THEN I'll
> consider giving away my CPU time.
>
> As it is, my power bill is too expensive :(

I wonder about the efficiency of distributed computing anyway. Sure, the
cost is transfered from the researcher onto the public, so it's good for
them, but considering the big picture, wouldn't it be more efficient to use
one supercomputer in a controlled hardware and software environment than
hundereds of thousands of motley PCs and the bandwidth, crosschecking,
software, hosting... etc? You can put a dozen CPUs and memory chips on a
rack mount motherboard with optimized high speed buses and you have the
computing power of more than a three dozen random PCs, at a fraction of the
energy expenditure, with the silly one motherboard per PC architecture,
unnecessary HDs, video cards, other cards and peripherals.

In short, just turn off your PC at night and donate part of the savings to
your favourite research. It would probably be more beneficial for all.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 19:14:42
Message: <49b45162@news.povray.org>
somebody wrote:
> In short, just turn off your PC at night and donate part of the savings to
> your favourite research. It would probably be more beneficial for all.

I saw one scientist who said he stopped renting time on Cray computers and 
bought 8 videogame computers (PS3s? The one with the "cell" cores) to do his 
computing, and he got better performance than the thousands-per-month he was 
spending on mainframe supercomputing.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 8 Mar 2009 19:25:52
Message: <49b453ff@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> somebody wrote:
>> In short, just turn off your PC at night and donate part of the savings
>> to your favourite research. It would probably be more beneficial for all.
> 
> I saw one scientist who said he stopped renting time on Cray computers and
> bought 8 videogame computers (PS3s? The one with the "cell" cores) to do
> his computing, and he got better performance than the thousands-per-month
> he was spending on mainframe supercomputing.

I was once able render POV-Ray animations on a thousand computers using the
same software World Community Grid uses. Without paying anything more than
electricity and Internet for my own PC. If the cost of electricity for
those computers was stupidly high, *I don't care*, I wasn't paying it :D

And either way, 99% of the people who joined my POV-Ray'ing project were
already doing distributed computing, so if I hadn't done that, they would
have used the same amount of electricity; computing something else.

PS: yes, it's PS3s that have Cell processors.


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