POV-Ray : Newsgroups : povray.off-topic : Real Americans V. The Plague Server Time
9 Oct 2024 16:15:43 EDT (-0400)
  Real Americans V. The Plague (Message 81 to 90 of 94)  
<<< Previous 10 Messages Goto Latest 10 Messages Next 4 Messages >>>
From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 13:54:23
Message: <4a33e7cf@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:27:45 +0100, Stephen wrote:

>>> Anything but Fluoride season.
>>
>>Mornington Crescent season! ;-)
>>
>>
> If only I had the time :(

I hear ya there.  We've got new exam going into beta that's consuming all 
my time right now (along with a system redesign for part of the exam 
delivery system).  Will have to work over the weekend on some of it.

>>Thanks again, my friend.  Next time I'm in your neighborhood (or you're
>>in mine), first round's on me. :-)
> 
> You're on :)

:-)

Jim


Post a reply to this message

From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 14:09:01
Message: <4a33eb3d$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> I do understand that it is considered by some to be immoral to
> force a medication on to the whole population 

Ah, but what about vaccines, where having everyone take them is far more 
effective than having only some take them?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


Post a reply to this message

From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 14:09:52
Message: <4a33eb70@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> Anything but Fluoride season.

LOL!

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


Post a reply to this message

From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 16:06:08
Message: <4a3406b0$1@news.povray.org>
On 06/13/09 13:09, Darren New wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>> I do understand that it is considered by some to be immoral to
>> force a medication on to the whole population
>
> Ah, but what about vaccines, where having everyone take them is far more
> effective than having only some take them?

	You mean, _most_ vaccines. ;-)

	For most vaccines (measles, etc), it's an economic decision - not a 
health one. It's cheaper to vaccinate than to treat - and also saves 
money with parents not having to take days off to take care of their 
sick children.

	That's why the HPV vaccine is having trouble, and why Gardasil et. al. 
are becoming very aggressive in advertising. If it ever becomes 
mandatory, it'll cost the (US) health industry *more* than if no one 
were vaccinated - it would be the first mandated vaccine to put a strain 
on the health care industry (resulting in lost resources for treating 
other ailments).

	All because the HPV vaccine is _much_ more expensive than the other 
mandated vaccines.

-- 
Psychoceramics: The study of crackpots.


                     /\  /\               /\  /
                    /  \/  \ u e e n     /  \/  a w a z
                        >>>>>>mue### [at] nawazorg<<<<<<
                                    anl


Post a reply to this message

From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 16:12:14
Message: <uv1835hke1a1c2arg2d1abobo53ca9tj5f@4ax.com>
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 11:09:00 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:

>Stephen wrote:
>> I do understand that it is considered by some to be immoral to
>> force a medication on to the whole population 
>
>Ah, but what about vaccines, where having everyone take them is far more 
>effective than having only some take them?

We are straying into the realms of Philosophy 202, here ;-)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


Post a reply to this message

From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 16:27:17
Message: <mr2835l7p7q9b2osg3c0uf8hg06rd8fd4g@4ax.com>
On 13 Jun 2009 13:54:23 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:27:45 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>
>>>> Anything but Fluoride season.
>>>
>>>Mornington Crescent season! ;-)
>>>
>>>
>> If only I had the time :(
>
>I hear ya there.  We've got new exam going into beta that's consuming all 
>my time right now (along with a system redesign for part of the exam 
>delivery system).  Will have to work over the weekend on some of it.

Well, we have reached the stage in the implementation where someone has got to
say; Do you want the work done on time or do you wand it to work?

I'm writing Functional Specs and keep falling over gaps in the processes. And
now the head office in Atlanta has just told the head developer that due to
reorganisation, he can keep his green card but there is no longer a job for him.
So I can't see my contract being extended in 6 weeks time.

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


Post a reply to this message

From: andrel
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 16:50:01
Message: <4A3410FA.9070301@hotmail.com>
On 13-6-2009 22:27, Stephen wrote:
> On 13 Jun 2009 13:54:23 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

> Well, we have reached the stage in the implementation where someone has got to
> say; Do you want the work done on time or do you wand it to work?

The Harry Potter method of writing software?


Post a reply to this message

From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 17:05:48
Message: <u35835dsja1l4afi99tk0pc1hb0t6gkc20@4ax.com>
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 22:50:02 +0200, andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

>On 13-6-2009 22:27, Stephen wrote:
>> On 13 Jun 2009 13:54:23 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>
>> Well, we have reached the stage in the implementation where someone has got to
>> say; Do you want the work done on time or do you wand it to work?
>
>The Harry Potter method of writing software?

Opps! want it to work?

But you may have a point. :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


Post a reply to this message

From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 18:59:04
Message: <4a342f38$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>     You mean, _most_ vaccines. ;-)

I mean for vaccines that tend towards herd immunity. If almost everyone is 
vaccinated, even those who aren't get the benefit of the vaccinations, 
because not enough people around them catch it to give it to them.

>     All because the HPV vaccine is _much_ more expensive than the other 
> mandated vaccines.

Perhaps it will come down when you start mass-producing it. Evolution of 
economics, say. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   Insanity is a small city on the western
   border of the State of Mind.


Post a reply to this message

From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 13 Jun 2009 19:02:11
Message: <4a342ff3@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:27:13 +0100, Stephen wrote:

> On 13 Jun 2009 13:54:23 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>On Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:27:45 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>>>> Anything but Fluoride season.
>>>>
>>>>Mornington Crescent season! ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If only I had the time :(
>>
>>I hear ya there.  We've got new exam going into beta that's consuming
>>all my time right now (along with a system redesign for part of the exam
>>delivery system).  Will have to work over the weekend on some of it.
> 
> Well, we have reached the stage in the implementation where someone has
> got to say; Do you want the work done on time or do you wand it to work?

LOL, I was there about a month ago with a platform migration project. :-)

> I'm writing Functional Specs and keep falling over gaps in the
> processes. And now the head office in Atlanta has just told the head
> developer that due to reorganisation, he can keep his green card but
> there is no longer a job for him. So I can't see my contract being
> extended in 6 weeks time.

Egads.  We've got something like that going on with our IS&T department; 
we announced a major partnership with an IT outsourcing company (called 
ACS) to train them on our products so they could help us get them in more 
large shops.  Part of the deal is the outsourcing of our entire IS&T 
department to them.

Most of the employees in IS&T (all that I've heard of/from, in fact) are 
happy about this change - they are being absorbed into ACS, so instead of 
being one of about 200 IT workers, they'll be one of about 30,000.  Which 
means more chance for advancement.

But it also means that those of us in the business may see some shifting 
around.  I've had to ask my technical team (who report to a people 
manager rather than a program manager - i.e. not to me) to put a 
contingency in place in case our IS&T resource gets shifted to another 
project.  I'm hoping he won't, but if he does his replacement needs to 
hit the ground running so the project isn't delayed any more than it 
already is.

Jim


Post a reply to this message

<<< Previous 10 Messages Goto Latest 10 Messages Next 4 Messages >>>

Copyright 2003-2023 Persistence of Vision Raytracer Pty. Ltd.