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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 01:26:20
Message: <4a31e6fc$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
>> 2) Why do you think that "Real American"s would quote British
>> paraphrasing of French philosophers?
> 
> Guaranteed right by the constitution and the alternative is total domination and
> no way out by communication on any large scale. But with co-conspiring media
> that has been achieved to a substantial degree.

Maybe I'm "The Plague" instead of a "Real American," but I can't even 
understand your above paragraph.

-- 
Chambers


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 02:15:00
Message: <web.4a31f1cffcfd56f345334fe80@news.povray.org>
Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
> alphaQuad wrote:
> > Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
> >> 2) Why do you think that "Real American"s would quote British
> >> paraphrasing of French philosophers?
> >
> > Guaranteed right by the constitution and the alternative is total domination and
> > no way out by communication on any large scale. But with co-conspiring media
> > that has been achieved to a substantial degree.
>
> Maybe I'm "The Plague" instead of a "Real American," but I can't even
> understand your above paragraph.
>
> --
> Chambers

It is doubtful you are the plague, you made way too many intelligent points and
I am the worst communicator on the planet. Just pick out the larger words.

And don't forget Viagra is a sulfide and will get you up for a short period of
use until yours fails permanently. No experience here to verify my educated
guess. Any lab rats out there, taking crap just because it is "FDA Approved"?


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 02:26:04
Message: <4a31f4fc$1@news.povray.org>
JeffBTX wrote:
> First; CAUTION with that term "REAL American". What is a REAL American? I could
> easily say that the only REAL Americans are those that have sacrificed and
> endured hardships for their country - as opposed to civilians who haven't (and
> wouldn't). My paternal grandmother, who grew up on a Navajo reservation in New
> Mexico, might say that the only REAL Americans are Native Americans. Rush
> Limbaugh would say that the only REAL Americans are card-carrying registered
> Republicans - EVEN if they are hypocritical drug addicts who are addicted to
> pain killers, and apparantly eat enough food to result in an enormous girth,
> enough food in one week to probably keep a small family alive for a month or
> more.
> 
> Accuracy;
> The full SUB-title was "How I learned to stop worrying and learned to love the
> bomb.". The TITLE of the movie was "Doctor Strangelove". A fiction. An
> entertainment. A parody, actually. I have it on DVD by the way, excellent
> movie. To paraphrase a fiction (especially this type of fiction, in the context
> that you used it) in an attempt to prove a point detracts from the validity of
> your post. It looks foolish.
> 
> By the way, another favorite classic of mine is "Seven Days in May". Personally,
> I root for General James Mattoon Scott. Being a military retiree, and a
> stereotypical "angry, disillusioned veteran", that would be no suprise. I would
> be DELIGHTED to see a large force march on Pennsylvania Avenue, and "kick some
> rear". NOT in/for a military takeover (as such) (or maybe, YES!), you
> understand, but to force government officials to do their jobs. Do their jobs
> efficiently, with competence, and with the welfare of the people and the
> country a priority (rather than other agendas).
> 
> Logic;
> Okay... it may very well be that some people sometime who have ingested
> flouridated water at some point might have experienced some vague symptoms
> similar to what you describe. I don't know. But how many MILLIONS (billions?)
> of "flouridated people" have lived long, healthy lives without ill effect? Your
> post is alarmist.
> 
> As to " ... wanting you silenced ... "; I don't know the details, but I CAN
> sympathize. Recently, in a games forum, a supposed "vietnam veteran" (who
> served maybe 2 years) who's "life was saved by the VA" (Veterans
> Administration) banned me from his games server for criticizing the VA. In the
> forum, he stated that I "should move to another country" (along with other
> insults). Me - who served in the military for 22 years. My criticism was based
> on MY experience with the VA, on my SPECIFIC case, and I had just as much right
> to an opinion as he did. This person (it became apparant as time went on) is a
> petty hypocrite with a tin god complex - an "anti-veteran veteran" - who just
> wanted to "show off". My critical comment was a ONE-LINER, embedded within a
> post on another subject altogether.
> 
> But in the long run, one is happier if one just forgets about it. So what? There
> are other things in life that are far more worthy of attention.
> 
> Far more dangerous to society are those that "go off half cocked", and force
> invalid concepts on society that in the long run have no real, tangible effect
> and cost everyone hard earned money.
> 
> If it worries you, water filtration systems are fairly cheap and convenient.
> Those Brita Water Pitchers come to mind.

I'm not real american (perhaps a real south american), but this was a 
top notch reply.


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From: Tim Cook
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 06:31:30
Message: <4a322e82$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:
>> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom_no_underscores> wrote:
>>> alphaQuad wrote:
>>> Guaranteed right by the constitution and the alternative is total domination and
>>> no way out by communication on any large scale. But with co-conspiring media
>>> that has been achieved to a substantial degree.
>> Maybe I'm "The Plague" instead of a "Real American," but I can't even
>> understand your above paragraph.
> It is doubtful you are the plague, you made way too many intelligent points and
> I am the worst communicator on the planet. Just pick out the larger words.

Picking out the larger words (>5 letters):
"Guaranteed constitution alternative domination communication. 
Co-conspiring achieved substantial degree."

...I think we've been had.  Clearly, this is a more sophisticated 
attempt at subliminal messaging than we've realised!

--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 08:15:00
Message: <web.4a3245e3fcfd56f35fd99d9e0@news.povray.org>
"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:
> Real Americans V. The Plague
>
> When a REAL American sees a topic they don't agree with,

They bomb the Feck out of it?
They cry (foul)?

What is real?
What is American?
What is a *real American*?


The mulberry bush, the mulberry bush

So early in the morning

This is the way we wash our face


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 08:59:43
Message: <4a32513f$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:

> 
> just trying to make convo, how many is a quarter dozen?
> 

I'm sure you can do the basic arithmetic to figure that out ;)



-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 09:07:47
Message: <4a325323@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:

> If wasn't a molecule it would not exist, a compound (molecule) containing a
> fluorine atom is a still a molecule, an ion is a charge. So there should be an
> ionic attraction method to remove the MOLECULE, now that you mention it

There are many fluoride compounds (compounds that contain the fluoride 
ion) Can you be more specific? Do you mean sodium fluoride, magnesium 
fluoride, cesium fluoride? or maybe cobalt fluoride perhaps? iron 
fluoride? hydrogen fluoride? or maybe you mean potassium fluoride?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluoride

Once you reveal which /compound/ you're blathering about *then* we can 
talk about toxicity.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 09:14:27
Message: <4a3254b3$1@news.povray.org>
alphaQuad wrote:

> I have enough fluoride in my tooth paste thank you very much, I suppose you
> swallow your tooth paste as well!

Bad idea to swallow. Large amounts are toxic. The tiny amount in tap 
water is safe. The good thing is it isn't a cumulative toxin like, say, 
mercury or lead which means the small amounts are excreted, ... Hey.. 
maybe you're confused and talking about lead leached into drinking water 
from lead pipes! That *is* a legitimate problem.

Besides, dentists have seen an upswing in cavities since people have 
been drinking more bottled water, which doesn't contain the fluoridation 
that tap water does.

BTW, I drink bottled water, mainly because the tap water here in the 
summer tastes terrible.
-- 
~Mike


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From: Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 09:25:24
Message: <4a325744$1@news.povray.org>
"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message 
news:web.4a312904ff14385ae1654840@news.povray.org...
> (a lot of babbling)

At some point, I hope you get the right mix of meds.  Or better yet, get a 
handle on the problem without medication, if possible.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Real Americans V. The Plague
Date: 12 Jun 2009 10:51:13
Message: <4a326b61$1@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:55:48 -0400, alphaQuad wrote:

> The plague of mankind will try to silence someone when his or her meager
> intellect is threatened by a new idea. Like the Jews wanted Jesus
> silenced, like Warp and Jim Henderson want me silenced. And apparently
> it is the Truth that is most unacceptable to these types.

Congratulations, you get one reply from me in this thread as well.

You completely misunderstand me.  I don't really care what you say one 
way or another UNTIL you start taking shots at individuals and engaging 
in personal attacks that violate the rules and community standards of 
this server.

I may think what you have to say about flouride and the pharmaceutical 
industry is ridiculous, but (and prepare yourself, because this is 
unlikely to happen again) you're right, you do have the right to hold 
those opinions, and in the US, I'll absolutely defend your right to say 
what you want even if I think it's ridiculous or foolish.  You want to 
make a fool out of yourself in public, go right ahead.

When you (or anyone for that matter) starts engaging in personal attacks, 
though, then I expect actions to be taken in order to deal with those 
violations.  Otherwise, what's the point of having the rules?  As Chris 
wrote in the rules for this forum, you're an invited guest here, and 
there is an expectation that you will behave accordingly.

You have not behaved accordingly, and so I have made my opinion known 
that you have violated these rules and that appropriate action must be 
taken for the sake of the community.

Your right to say what you want stops at my nose.  So stop with the 
personal attacks.  I'll be happy to ignore you when you post things that 
I find to be ridiculous, and everyone can be happy.

What's more, this is not a "public forum" that is required to protect the 
US concept of free speech.  First, the server is based in Australia, but 
even if it were in the US, US law and the courts have upheld the right 
for operators of places where people can gather to set and enforce 
community standards.

That's why, while you have the right to yell "fire" in a crowded theater 
when there is no fire, you also are subject to the consequences of 
violating laws pertaining to the incitement of people.

Similarly, when you say things in a forum that violate that forum's 
rules, don't be surprised if there are consequences to violating those 
rules.  Why?  Because you're an invited guest, and this isn't a piece of 
public property.  It's a privately owned server and the owner of the 
server has the legal right (both in the US and, I expect, under 
Australian law) to enforce the rules as they see fit.

Again, this is my last post directly to you in this thread.  I will not 
be drawn into a debate with you.  If my opinion angers you, sorry about 
that.  <shrug>  Just go back and re-read your first post in your last 
thread and implement what you learned about managing anger and just walk 
away from it.

Jim


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