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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> I see two possibilities:
>
> - Everybody else on the Internet is an asshole.
>
> - I'm an asshole.
From a scientific-analytical point of view, I note that these two possibilities
are not mutually exclusive, and that Occam's Razor favors the notion that you
are in no way special...
.... I leave it up to you to figure out what that means :P
(Yes, same goes for me of course ;))
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> It got to the point where I'd see a post from Warp saying that Haskell
> sucks because of X, and I'd spent half an hour trying to come up with a
> reason why X is false. It ceased to be about the truth, and about
> wanting to be right. I *wanted* Haskell to be the best.
>
> But wanting something to be true doesn't make it true. And,
> unfortunately for me, Warp is right, as usual. Haskell sucks. And no
> amount of words from me is going to change it. My pride and joy actually
> sucks, and I can't do anything about it.
Welcome to the club.
> Yet again, the Haskell mailing lists collectively have more PhDs than
> you can shake a stick at. There are people there who know the difference
> between an endomorphism and an epimorphism, and people who actually
> comprehend the Curry-Howard isomorphism. And, almost unanimously, they
> all regard me as some kind of troll. They think I'm there just to cause
> disruption.
Hum... just put them in your shoes for a change: There they are, possibly
believing that Haskell is THE WAY like you did. Here comes a newbie daring to
ask QUESTIONS about THE WAY... what if they don't manage to come up with
ANSWERS?
It's much easier finding reasons to call someone a troll than it is to put one's
own firm beliefs to the test - especially if deep down in your heart you're not
*that* sure about it.
> Nobody else on the forum gets singled out as a troll. (Except for that
> one guy who really *is* a troll!) Lots of other people, many of them
> beginners like myself, manage to coexist quite happily. So clearly I
> personally must be doing something very wrong to attract this kind of
> negative attention.
Or maybe you're doing something very right.
Ever read the Bible? World-famous epic story, with Episode II featuring some guy
who is thought by some to have done virtually *everything* right. Still suffered
from a similar problem. The academics of his time didn't just call him a troll
though.
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John VanSickle wrote:
> This is why you should never smoke marijuana: It makes you dumb enough
> to forget that it's illegal.
I'm so gonna use that in a signature somewhere XD
--
~Mike
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 08:58:33 +0000, Invisible wrote:
>>> But, I find it ironic that one of his admonishments was not to derail
>>> the thread, only to see there is a large part of this thread that has
>>> absolutely nothing to do with the original topic. Delightfully
>>> hijacked.
>>
>> Yes, I had noticed that as well - beautifully done, everyone! ;-)
>
> Yes, yes, it was me, I plead guilty, and at the count of three I pull
> back the duvet, make may way to the refrigerator, one dry potatoe
> inside... er, wait...
LOL
Jim
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>>> Yes, I had noticed that as well - beautifully done, everyone! ;-)
>> Yes, yes, it was me, I plead guilty, and at the count of three I pull
>> back the duvet, make may way to the refrigerator, one dry potatoe
>> inside... er, wait...
>
> LOL
*bows*
10 points for naming the source.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:08:49 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> Yes, I had noticed that as well - beautifully done, everyone! ;-)
>>> Yes, yes, it was me, I plead guilty, and at the count of three I pull
>>> back the duvet, make may way to the refrigerator, one dry potatoe
>>> inside... er, wait...
>>
>> LOL
>
> *bows*
>
> 10 points for naming the source.
cookie.h, line 15. :-)
Jim
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>> *bows*
>>
>> 10 points for naming the source.
>
> cookie.h, line 15. :-)
LOL! That's almost worth a point...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On 18-2-2009 20:08, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> Yes, I had noticed that as well - beautifully done, everyone! ;-)
>>> Yes, yes, it was me, I plead guilty, and at the count of three I pull
>>> back the duvet, make may way to the refrigerator, one dry potatoe
>>> inside... er, wait...
>>
>> LOL
>
> *bows*
>
> 10 points for naming the source.
>
I think it would be possible to find it using google, but I prefer to go
to sleep early tonight.
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:41:11 +0000, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> *bows*
>>>
>>> 10 points for naming the source.
>>
>> cookie.h, line 15. :-)
>
> LOL! That's almost worth a point...
Well, I was wrong, it was line 16. ;-)
Jim
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On 2/16/2009 12:12 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> Haskell isn't C. It's not trying to be, either.
>
> As far as Warp is concerned, "it's not efficient == it's not worth using".
There are different types of efficiency, you know. When I said,
"Haskell isn't C," I wasn't saying that Haskell isn't efficient. On the
contrary, Haskell is (apparently) extremely efficient.
C gives the programmer a tremendous ability to economize memory usage
and CPU cycles.
Haskell, on the other hand, economizes programmer's productivity.
With C, you can do a lot with a small device (which is where C remains
in common usage, that is, embedded systems). With Haskell, you can do a
lot in a short time (at least, that's what I understand it to be).
>> What about when so many otherwise rational, intelligent people all say
>> you're smart & they like you? Who are going to listen to?
>
> They're generally not very vocal.
I can remember at least two or three times you posted really negative
thoughts about yourself on this NG, and received a deluge of positive
responses from us. We're not vocal in other NGs*, but we are here.
*Actually, many other forums I've seen have nowhere near the civility of
the POV groups. About the only ones I've seen that do are the ClanLib
forums, and the Kevin's Watch message board.
--
...Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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