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From: bluetree
Subject: mean
Date: 28 Jun 2008 15:40:00
Message: <web.4866925870f8efb054805c420@news.povray.org>
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16OxcI7AUP4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0kPGXFIAk&feature=related

Cool. :-D
Thinking of that, I would immediately stop to smoke, if I would smoke... ^^

http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=mbLnO_e2waA from responsibilityproject.com

great

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqi5F5MqqTQ&feature=related old but also great,
part of "Adventures of Mark Twain"

and something, which makes my eyes crying tears of joy ^^
(I don't want to come out as a "hack and slash"-player, but that's...)
http://eu.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/index.xml
all diablo-fans would agree, that's great news!! :-)


bluetree


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 28 Jun 2008 19:12:19
Message: <4866c553@news.povray.org>
> and something, which makes my eyes crying tears of joy ^^
> (I don't want to come out as a "hack and slash"-player, but that's...)
> http://eu.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/index.xml
> all diablo-fans would agree, that's great news!! :-)

Oooohh... Looks good.
It's not my normal style of game, but I do like to hack through hordes of
monsters from time to time...

Thought their website either has a few bugs in it, or it doesn't like
firefox


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From: bluetree
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 03:05:01
Message: <web.486732e49e3373f33a8d79f50@news.povray.org>
"Gail Shaw" <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> > and something, which makes my eyes crying tears of joy ^^
> > (I don't want to come out as a "hack and slash"-player, but that's...)
> > http://eu.blizzard.com/diablo3/media/index.xml
> > all diablo-fans would agree, that's great news!! :-)
>
> Oooohh... Looks good.
> It's not my normal style of game, but I do like to hack through hordes of
> monsters from time to time...

So you don't know DiabloII?
Then you missed something.
It's the only hack and slash game, I've played.
Normally I'm a typical RPG-gamer. :-D

> Thought their website either has a few bugs in it, or it doesn't like
> firefox

Yes, they just set it up yesterday.
I was watching their progress. :-)

bluetree


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 04:07:11
Message: <486742ae@news.povray.org>
bluetree <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> So you don't know DiabloII?
> Then you missed something.
> It's the only hack and slash game, I've played.
> Normally I'm a typical RPG-gamer. :-D

  I thought Diablo was an RPG game. Apparently it isn't after all?
(No, I have never played it.)

  What's a "hack and slash" game?

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 04:51:01
Message: <48674cf5@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
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> bluetree <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> > So you don't know DiabloII?
> > Then you missed something.
> > It's the only hack and slash game, I've played.
> > Normally I'm a typical RPG-gamer. :-D
>
>   I thought Diablo was an RPG game. Apparently it isn't after all?
> (No, I have never played it.)

It is, but fairly shallow. You can assign stats and pick talents and that's
pretty much all of the RPG elements.
It's kinda a cross between a 3rd person action game and an RPG.

>   What's a "hack and slash" game?

You spend most of the game hacking through hordes on monsters.
Diablo
Dungeon Seige
Sacred
probably others.


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 04:54:48
Message: <48674dd8@news.povray.org>
"bluetree" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message
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>
> So you don't know DiabloII?
> Then you missed something.

Know it and played it. Expansion too.

I played Dungeon seige which was also a very hack-and-slash type. Not bad.
Played Sacred which was OK, but too large and too long. Missions had you
running (or riding) from one side of the continent to the other repeatedly.
It got old too quick.

> Normally I'm a typical RPG-gamer. :-D

Also. RPG and Strat.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 06:52:55
Message: <48676987@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> >   What's a "hack and slash" game?

> You spend most of the game hacking through hordes on monsters.

  Sounds boring.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 10:59:54
Message: <4867a36a@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> > >   What's a "hack and slash" game?
>
> > You spend most of the game hacking through hordes on monsters.
>
>   Sounds boring.

Depends on how well the game has been done. Sacred got boring, because there
were so many monsters thar were so similar.
Diablo had a great variety of creatures with different tactics, so the fun
and the skill comes in adapting and changing your way of playing to the
game. Of course, there's also the loot, the decision on what weapons and
armour to use for what critters.

Then, if you play for story (as I do) there's the constant 'what next' as
pieces of the story unfold as you work your way through the game.

Do you play first person shooters? Do you enjoy them?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 11:57:15
Message: <4867b0da@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> Do you play first person shooters? Do you enjoy them?

  I'd say FPS games are a bit different in that usually there's some skill
involved, and the thrill is in "hacking through hordes" skillfully... :)

  FPS games get a bit boring if there's not enough variation on both
content and gameplay. For example I found Doom3 to be a bit boring by
the time I got to the last levels because there wasn't enough variation,
but Half-Life 2 was very addictive all the way through (while perhaps
somewhat similar, it had a much stronger story, and the scenery changed
a lot more often).

  Anyways, the main element which keeps FPS games interesting is the
skill factor.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: mean
Date: 29 Jun 2008 12:21:48
Message: <4867b69c@news.povray.org>
"Warp" <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote in message
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> Gail Shaw <initialsurname@sentech sa dot com> wrote:
> > Do you play first person shooters? Do you enjoy them?
>
>   I'd say FPS games are a bit different in that usually there's some skill
> involved, and the thrill is in "hacking through hordes" skillfully... :)

<snip>

>   Anyways, the main element which keeps FPS games interesting is the
> skill factor.
>

I'd say the same about the hack-and-slash style of RPG. You just have a
variety of (mostly) melee weapons instead of a variety of guns and (often,
not always) the hack-and-slash is 3rd person, not 1st.

Believe me, if you try just hacking your way through Diable without
thinking, you have a very dead character very quickly.


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