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Darren New wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
>> Obviously the TV commercials are giving people the idea that they can
>> take SSRI/SNRIs for nearly any problem causing anxiety or depression.
>
> In the US you need to get doctors to approve almost everything. I'm not
> sure I could call this the sole fault of the phama companies.
Oh no, I'm not laying the entire blame on the pharmaceutical companies.
Doctors aren't given enough caution before administering these
chemicals, and people come in their offices asking for them specifically.
Sam
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 11:30:33 -0700, Darren New wrote:
>> Obviously the TV commercials are giving people the idea that they can
>> take SSRI/SNRIs for nearly any problem causing anxiety or depression.
>
> In the US you need to get doctors to approve almost everything. I'm not
> sure I could call this the sole fault of the phama companies.
Well, personally, I've had a problem with the pharma companies
advertising "ask your doctor of Vaxodrine is right for you" - the
doctor's the professional, let THEM make that determination. Then again,
the doctors frequently go on junkets on the pharma companies (something
that in my business would be an ethics violation, but apparently it's OK
in the medical field) and push drugs that aren't really needed or
appropriate. Well, *some* do, not all. Obviously there are some
responsible doctors out there.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Well, personally, I've had a problem with the pharma companies
> advertising "ask your doctor of Vaxodrine is right for you" - the
> doctor's the professional, let THEM make that determination.
The drug company is basically saying "tell your doctor we have a new
drug." The best commercials are the ones where they tell your doctor to
ask about it, but don't even tell you what kind of illness it treats.
> in the medical field) and push drugs that aren't really needed or
> appropriate. Well, *some* do, not all. Obviously there are some
> responsible doctors out there.
Yeah. Part of it is the insurance bit - doctors don't get paid much for
seeing patients compared to treating patients.
Pretty much everything where the person paying isn't the person getting
the benefits if f'ed up in the same way. Everything from
advertising-driven media to US medicine to indirect-tax-funded services.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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"Darren New" <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote in message
news:4829de49@news.povray.org...
> stbenge wrote:
> > Obviously the TV commercials are giving people the idea that they can
> > take SSRI/SNRIs for nearly any problem causing anxiety or depression.
>
> In the US you need to get doctors to approve almost everything. I'm not
> sure I could call this the sole fault of the phama companies.
When I visited the US recently, I was very surprised by the adverts for
perscription drugs on TV. Here only non-perscription drugs are advertised
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stbenge wrote:
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> SSRI/SNRIs are *not* the wonder drugs the pharmaceuticals would have you
> think they are. I've experienced SSRI-induced psychosis myself, although
> I'll admit I was wrongly diagnosed at the time. Simple precaution could
> have saved me a lot of trouble, a vehicle, a driver's license, and six
> months.
>
Odd, I've been on an SSRI class medication for quite some time, and have
never had any ill effects from it.
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Gail Shaw wrote:
> When I visited the US recently, I was very surprised by the adverts for
> perscription drugs on TV.
The laws on this changed just a few years ago, actually.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
"That's pretty. Where's that?"
"It's the Age of Channelwood."
"We should go there on vacation some time."
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> stbenge wrote:
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>>
>> SSRI/SNRIs are *not* the wonder drugs the pharmaceuticals would have
>> you think they are. I've experienced SSRI-induced psychosis myself,
>> although I'll admit I was wrongly diagnosed at the time. Simple
>> precaution could have saved me a lot of trouble, a vehicle, a driver's
>> license, and six months.
>>
>
> Odd, I've been on an SSRI class medication for quite some time, and have
> never had any ill effects from it.
Why are you on it? You're probably not one of the 8% who goes psychotic.
I'm bipolar. Two years ago I was being treated with two antidepressants
and no mood stabilizers... a bad situation for somebody prone to have
manic episodes :O
Sam
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"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
news:4829fdb7$1@news.povray.org...
> Gail Shaw wrote:
> > When I visited the US recently, I was very surprised by the adverts for
> > perscription drugs on TV.
>
> The laws on this changed just a few years ago, actually.
To allow it, or to restrict it?
I was there Sept last year.
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 12:30:14 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Well, personally, I've had a problem with the pharma companies
>> advertising "ask your doctor of Vaxodrine is right for you" - the
>> doctor's the professional, let THEM make that determination.
>
> The drug company is basically saying "tell your doctor we have a new
> drug."
Because the doctor hasn't already received a thousand flyers for it, or a
paid golf holiday?
> The best commercials are the ones where they tell your doctor to
> ask about it, but don't even tell you what kind of illness it treats.
Yeah.....
>> in the medical field) and push drugs that aren't really needed or
>> appropriate. Well, *some* do, not all. Obviously there are some
>> responsible doctors out there.
>
> Yeah. Part of it is the insurance bit - doctors don't get paid much for
> seeing patients compared to treating patients.
True....
> Pretty much everything where the person paying isn't the person getting
> the benefits if f'ed up in the same way. Everything from
> advertising-driven media to US medicine to indirect-tax-funded services.
Wholeheartedly agree with that. I just think it's particularly bad when
the advertisers are messing with people's health.
Jim
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 23:10:36 +0200, Gail Shaw wrote:
> To allow it, or to restrict it?
To allow it.
Jim
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