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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 18:09:51
Message: <47ba103f$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:38:30 -0500, Mike the Elder wrote:

> I think they refer to it as "logical bi-location".  Once you've been
> conditioned to believe in miracles you can believe ANYTHING.
> 
> With Best Wishes for progress toward a sane and rational world, Mike C.

Now that's a term I've not heard before - time to do some reading. :-)

Jim

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 18:10:05
Message: <47ba104d$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:26:31 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 18 Feb 2008 13:29:58 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>Here's the funny thing about it (and it just struck me) - the same
>>people who say that the 2nd amendment allows them to own guns "just in
>>case the government gets out of control"
> 
> I thought that it was in case those Brit visitors aren't really tourists
> :)

LOL, you know, that could be true. :-)

Jim


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From: Brian Elliott
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 18:51:30
Message: <47ba1a02@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:26:31 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 18 Feb 2008 13:29:58 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>>
>>>Here's the funny thing about it (and it just struck me) - the same
>>>people who say that the 2nd amendment allows them to own guns "just in
>>>case the government gets out of control"
>>
>> I thought that it was in case those Brit visitors aren't really tourists
>> :)
>
> LOL, you know, that could be true. :-)

How about sending Andy over in a red coat?  If nothing happens, it's safe to 
go.

  :-)


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 21:45:01
Message: <web.47ba41da9d4c0fa776b3e6350@news.povray.org>
Add to the list NIU's Kazmierczak as one more fluorine-crazed assassin.


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/796394,021508shooter.article

have been anti-depressants.




Doing your home work, as suspected he was taking something.
Today it is mostly fluorides, Prozac, Paxil or several others, fluvoxamine, etc.

Also student photo in the article.


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From: alphaQuad
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 22:00:00
Message: <web.47ba45939d4c0fa776b3e6350@news.povray.org>


> Today it is mostly fluorides, Prozac, Paxil or several others, fluvoxamine, etc.

The point I mean to make, as my point seems to fail to send.

He had to stop (taking his meds), he had taken enough, too much, and it did its
work on his now fluorine-glowing head and meninges.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meninges

There should be a 4th pathology you wont see here.
Fluoride Chloride Sulfide Bromide Interaction:


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 22:27:53
Message: <47ba4cb9@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:56:40 +1000, Brian Elliott wrote:

> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
> news:47ba104d$1@news.povray.org...
>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:26:31 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 18 Feb 2008 13:29:58 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Here's the funny thing about it (and it just struck me) - the same
>>>>people who say that the 2nd amendment allows them to own guns "just in
>>>>case the government gets out of control"
>>>
>>> I thought that it was in case those Brit visitors aren't really
>>> tourists :)
>>
>> LOL, you know, that could be true. :-)
> 
> How about sending Andy over in a red coat?  If nothing happens, it's
> safe to go.

What, Andy is your canary? ;-)

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 22:31:54
Message: <47ba4daa$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 17:40:54 -0300, nemesis wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Yes, I think that's probably the case.  After all, before I mentioned
>> the shooting in Wisconsin, had you even heard of it?  Or the one in
>> Scotland?
> 
> so many shootings.  I only really remember the Columbine one.  I
> remember though that since then it's become quite routine.  Like I said
> before, people adapt to such horror situations and let their hearts go
> cold:  oh, so what, another shooting?
> 
> The first time it's shocking, the others not so.

It becomes something you "get used to" - that's one of the problems with 
the news over-sensationalizing stories:  desensitization.

>> The thing is, we - as a people - tend to overreact to things,
>> especially here in the US.  One crazy guy fails to blow up a plane
>> using a shoe bomb (which some have argued couldn't have worked
>> regardless), and now everyone who boards a plane has to take their
>> shoes off.
> 
> well, that's news to me.  So, no one dies from a bomb anymore, just for
> smelly feet?

I used to fly about 2-3 times a month starting 5 years ago (actually, 5 
years ago yesterday), did it for about 2 years.  The rules varied from 
airport to airport, but Richard Reid (the "shoe bomber", as he became 
known) made life difficult for frequent travelers.

To be clear - in the US you are required to take your shoes off *at the 
security checkpoint* and run them through the X-ray machine.  It used to 
be if the soles were < 3/4" and did not have metal shanks in them, you 
didn't have to take them off.  I bought 2 pairs of Eccos specifically 
because they met the TSA guidelines.  Then the rules changed - now 
everyone has to take their shoes off going through security.

The requirement is not that you get on the plane in your socks.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 22:32:29
Message: <47ba4dcd$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:29:40 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 18 Feb 2008 13:38:02 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>Well, I don't know how long it took for the stories about Jack the
>>Ripper to spread - do you?
> 
> Fast in London, I believe

Probably.  But how long until they knew in Sydney, Australia, or in the 
colonies?

>>Keep also in mind that JtR's targets were in a large city - more rural
>>areas would have had much less coverage.  If Laura Ingals Wilder had
>>shot up her schoolyard, we might well not have heard of it, partly
>>because it was a rural area, and partly because small towns tended to
>>not talk about serious things like this happening with outsiders.
> 
> Lizzie Borden with an Axe gave her father forty whacks …

Yep...

Jim


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 18 Feb 2008 23:43:15
Message: <47ba5e63@news.povray.org>
"alphaQuad" <alp### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
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>
> "He was taking medication, had stopped and he become somewhat erratic in
the
> last two weeks,'' said Grady.
>

He stopped taking his medication and became erratic. How absolutely
unexpected </sarcasm>

> There should be a 4th pathology you wont see here.
> Fluoride Chloride Sulfide Bromide Interaction:

For those of us who don't have a PhD in Phamacy (as you apparently do have),
would you like to link a respected and verifyable source that explains this?

Sorry, I know, shouldn't feed the troll...


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From: Brian Elliott
Subject: Re: Northern Illinois University Student Attack
Date: 19 Feb 2008 01:05:18
Message: <47ba719e@news.povray.org>
"Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message 
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> On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:56:40 +1000, Brian Elliott wrote:
>
>> "Jim Henderson" <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote in message
>> news:47ba104d$1@news.povray.org...
>>> On Mon, 18 Feb 2008 21:26:31 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 18 Feb 2008 13:29:58 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Here's the funny thing about it (and it just struck me) - the same
>>>>>people who say that the 2nd amendment allows them to own guns "just in
>>>>>case the government gets out of control"
>>>>
>>>> I thought that it was in case those Brit visitors aren't really
>>>> tourists :)
>>>
>>> LOL, you know, that could be true. :-)
>>
>> How about sending Andy over in a red coat?  If nothing happens, it's
>> safe to go.
>
> What, Andy is your canary? ;-)

Well, exactly:  *I* don't want to die!  Actually he's not really my canary, 
truth be told, but it's fun to watch.  I'm from the penal colony that his 
country founded in New Holland, and we cut ourselves off from them a little 
while ago.  :-)


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