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From: Invisible
Subject: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 10:41:34
Message: <47ab26ae$1@news.povray.org>
http://xkcd.com/149/

I tried this last night.

It didn't work.

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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 10:53:07
Message: <47ab2963$1@news.povray.org>

> http://xkcd.com/149/
> 
> I tried this last night.
> 
> It didn't work.
> 

Your target may not run Unix. If he/she/it runs Windows, try:

runas /user:Administrator <command>

Or maybe it runs a Linux distro without sudo. Try su -c "command"; but 
then you definitely need the root password.


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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 11:20:54
Message: <isbmq3lr4iqd4jlk68qt1j83s1afvc2lj5@4ax.com>
On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:53:03 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez
<nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote:

>... he/she/it ...

Funny, an xkcd comic applies to your reply...

http://xkcd.com/145/


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 12:00:06
Message: <47ab3916@news.povray.org>
Kyle <hob### [at] gatenet> wrote:
> On Thu, 07 Feb 2008 13:53:03 -0200, Nicolas Alvarez
<nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote:

> >... he/she/it ...

> Funny, an xkcd comic applies to your reply...

> http://xkcd.com/145/

  IMO "he" is a perfectly valid gender-neutral third-person pronoun.
IMO anyone who constructs those artificial "he/she" or whatever
monstrosities is just being ridiculously over-PC.

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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 13:18:01
Message: <47ab4b59@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   IMO "he" is a perfectly valid gender-neutral third-person pronoun.
> IMO anyone who constructs those artificial "he/she" or whatever
> monstrosities is just being ridiculously over-PC.

Even the QA department at my work agrees on this - and they don't agree 
on *anything*!

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 14:27:55
Message: <47ab5bbb$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> 
>>   IMO "he" is a perfectly valid gender-neutral third-person pronoun.
>> IMO anyone who constructs those artificial "he/she" or whatever
>> monstrosities is just being ridiculously over-PC.
> 
> Even the QA department at my work agrees on this - and they don't agree 
> on *anything*!
> 

I thought the convention in formal writing was to choose one and use it. 
i.e. if you're using he to refer to one particular unspecified person, 
use it consistently, if using she for that unspecified person, use that.

Of course, it's been a long time since composition class ...


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From: Mueen Nawaz
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 19:17:53
Message: <47ab9fb1$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   IMO "he" is a perfectly valid gender-neutral third-person pronoun.
> IMO anyone who constructs those artificial "he/she" or whatever
> monstrosities is just being ridiculously over-PC.

	I'm fine with it if you're fine when others use "she" instead.

	Personally, I always wished English had gender-neutral third-person
pronouns that applies to humans. Can't see a downside to it.

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 19:30:00
Message: <web.47aba1c422afc7d36c95baf0@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>  Personally, I always wished English had gender-neutral third-person
> pronouns that applies to humans.

"it" only applies to objects and non-human creatures?


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 7 Feb 2008 19:52:07
Message: <47aba7b7$1@news.povray.org>

> Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>>  Personally, I always wished English had gender-neutral third-person
>> pronouns that applies to humans.
> 
> "it" only applies to objects and non-human creatures?

Yes.


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From: Sabrina Kilian
Subject: Re: Reality
Date: 8 Feb 2008 03:21:03
Message: <47ac10ef$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> Mueen Nawaz <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
>>  Personally, I always wished English had gender-neutral third-person
>> pronouns that applies to humans.
> 
> "it" only applies to objects and non-human creatures?
> 
> 

Try referring to a person who's gender you can't guess as 'it' and see
how far it gets you.


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