On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:19:50 +0200, Fredrik Eriksson wrote:

> You will find that Sweden, Norway, Finland and Iceland all have lower
> population densities than the US.

I did say "overall", of course there will be exceptions. :-)

Sweden:  20 P/Sq. Km.

Norway:  14 P/Sq. Km.

Finland:  15 P/Sq. Km.

Iceland:  2 P/Sq. Km.

I could go the other way as well and list France, Germany, and the United 
Kingdom.  <shrug>

I used the Netherlands because it was most likely the experience that 
andrel is most familiar with, since it seems he lives there. :-)

Jim

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On 26-8-2009 0:01, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:19:50 +0200, Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> 
>> You will find that Sweden, Norway, Finland and Iceland all have lower
>> population densities than the US.
> 
> I did say "overall", of course there will be exceptions. :-)
> 
> Sweden:  20 P/Sq. Km.
> 
> Norway:  14 P/Sq. Km.
> 
> Finland:  15 P/Sq. Km.
> 
> Iceland:  2 P/Sq. Km.
> 
> I could go the other way as well and list France, Germany, and the United 
> Kingdom.  <shrug>
> 
> I used the Netherlands because it was most likely the experience that 
> andrel is most familiar with, since it seems he lives there. :-)

Dutch people tend to travel a lot. Everywhere I go I meet them. I know 
some people that go to the weirdest places, same experience. There are 
thousands of Dutch people trying to find a place without Dutchmen. Guess 
why that is not working. Even the spacestation is not safe, although the 
moon may be free of my countrymen (for now).

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> It is.  We have street addresses called "rural routes" - the post office 
> is located in the nearest town, but the house is not actually in the town.

And it's not always even "way out in the middle of nowhere" kinds of things. 
20 miles from the college I went to (and 7 miles from a major shipping 
intersection) was "rural" enough to not have postal addresses.

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:49:56 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> It is.  We have street addresses called "rural routes" - the post
>> office is located in the nearest town, but the house is not actually in
>> the town.
> 
> And it's not always even "way out in the middle of nowhere" kinds of
> things. 20 miles from the college I went to (and 7 miles from a major
> shipping intersection) was "rural" enough to not have postal addresses.

Very true. :-)

Jim

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andrel wrote:
> To be slighly more precise: are there houses that are outside the 
> juridical borders of a city?

City? Yes.

There are lots of houses in "unincorporated regions" where the lowest level 
of government covers a "county". Google for "county map" for what this means 
size-wise. A county is basically one elected federal official, IIRC. It 
could be several hundred miles across.

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Jim Henderson wrote:
> the tax burden would be quite high.

Especially when you consider you need three full-time shifts.

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:56:54 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> the tax burden would be quite high.
> 
> Especially when you consider you need three full-time shifts.

Yep, very much so.  Though arguably with a small enough population, you 
could deal with it on an "on call" basis.

Jim

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:55:14 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> A county is basically one elected federal official, IIRC.

I *think* you mean state official. :)

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:
>> A county is basically one elected federal official, IIRC.
> I *think* you mean state official. :)

Possibly. Especially with the gerrymandering going on.

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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 19:01:46 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>> A county is basically one elected federal official, IIRC.
>> I *think* you mean state official. :)
> 
> Possibly. Especially with the gerrymandering going on.

Yeah.  If it was a federal-level elected official, they'd have to be a 
federal judge (IIRC), or a member of the house/senate, and in general, 
the areas represented are much larger than a single county.  There may be 
one or two exceptions in those less-densely populated states.

Jim

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