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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 17:20:00
Message: <op.uy8ljlo77bxctx@e6600>
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:09:58 +0200, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com>
wrote:
> Well, true, but consider that the land mass of the US is 9,826,630 sq.
> km. and the population is roughly 307,212,123 people...(density of 31
> people per square km). Compare to your IP address' home location of The
> Netherlands, 41,526 sq. km. and a population of 16,715,999 (density of
> 402 people per sq. km.) and you start to see the difference I'm talking
> about. Compare the US population density to pretty much any European
> country and you'll find the comparison is pretty consistent, overall.
You will find that Sweden, Norway, Finland and Iceland all have lower
population densities than the US.
--
FE
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 18:01:55
Message: <4a945f53$1@news.povray.org>
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:19:50 +0200, Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> You will find that Sweden, Norway, Finland and Iceland all have lower
> population densities than the US.
I did say "overall", of course there will be exceptions. :-)
Sweden: 20 P/Sq. Km.
Norway: 14 P/Sq. Km.
Finland: 15 P/Sq. Km.
Iceland: 2 P/Sq. Km.
I could go the other way as well and list France, Germany, and the United
Kingdom. <shrug>
I used the Netherlands because it was most likely the experience that
andrel is most familiar with, since it seems he lives there. :-)
Jim
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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 18:15:26
Message: <4A94627E.2000602@hotmail.com>
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On 26-8-2009 0:01, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 23:19:50 +0200, Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
>
>> You will find that Sweden, Norway, Finland and Iceland all have lower
>> population densities than the US.
>
> I did say "overall", of course there will be exceptions. :-)
>
> Sweden: 20 P/Sq. Km.
>
> Norway: 14 P/Sq. Km.
>
> Finland: 15 P/Sq. Km.
>
> Iceland: 2 P/Sq. Km.
>
> I could go the other way as well and list France, Germany, and the United
> Kingdom. <shrug>
>
> I used the Netherlands because it was most likely the experience that
> andrel is most familiar with, since it seems he lives there. :-)
Dutch people tend to travel a lot. Everywhere I go I meet them. I know
some people that go to the weirdest places, same experience. There are
thousands of Dutch people trying to find a place without Dutchmen. Guess
why that is not working. Even the spacestation is not safe, although the
moon may be free of my countrymen (for now).
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 20:49:56
Message: <4a9486b4$1@news.povray.org>
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> It is. We have street addresses called "rural routes" - the post office
> is located in the nearest town, but the house is not actually in the town.
And it's not always even "way out in the middle of nowhere" kinds of things.
20 miles from the college I went to (and 7 miles from a major shipping
intersection) was "rural" enough to not have postal addresses.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Understanding the structure of the universe
via religion is like understanding the
structure of computers via Tron.
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 20:53:25
Message: <4a948785@news.povray.org>
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:49:56 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> It is. We have street addresses called "rural routes" - the post
>> office is located in the nearest town, but the house is not actually in
>> the town.
>
> And it's not always even "way out in the middle of nowhere" kinds of
> things. 20 miles from the college I went to (and 7 miles from a major
> shipping intersection) was "rural" enough to not have postal addresses.
Very true. :-)
Jim
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 20:55:15
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andrel wrote:
> To be slighly more precise: are there houses that are outside the
> juridical borders of a city?
City? Yes.
There are lots of houses in "unincorporated regions" where the lowest level
of government covers a "county". Google for "county map" for what this means
size-wise. A county is basically one elected federal official, IIRC. It
could be several hundred miles across.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 20:56:55
Message: <4a948857$1@news.povray.org>
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> the tax burden would be quite high.
Especially when you consider you need three full-time shifts.
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 22:00:22
Message: <4a949736$1@news.povray.org>
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:56:54 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> the tax burden would be quite high.
>
> Especially when you consider you need three full-time shifts.
Yep, very much so. Though arguably with a small enough population, you
could deal with it on an "on call" basis.
Jim
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 22:00:58
Message: <4a94975a$1@news.povray.org>
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:55:14 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> A county is basically one elected federal official, IIRC.
I *think* you mean state official. :)
Jim
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Can anyone explain America's opposition to national healthcare?
Date: 25 Aug 2009 22:01:47
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Jim Henderson wrote:
>> A county is basically one elected federal official, IIRC.
> I *think* you mean state official. :)
Possibly. Especially with the gerrymandering going on.
--
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