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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 06:27:25 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> Baptism at an
> early age like the catholics do doesn't mean much.
Maybe not to you, but to those who practice that, it does.
Jim
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"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocain freeservecouk> wrote:
> So either God's a 'Worship Me or I'll beat you up' bully or a 'I'll help
> the tribe who showers Me with the most faith' mercenary (or both)?
Faith, love, respect and fear are to be expected from those who devote their
lifes to God's will. Fear not of God, but of His mighty. Those who have no
fear, respect, love of faith for God may view it under any light they want.
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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Getting Kenned Ham, without paying.
Date: 12 Dec 2007 11:37:07
Message: <47600e33@news.povray.org>
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 10:38:45 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> it's not twisting nor inventing: it's perceveing things under a
> different light.
Hmm, so it's OK for you to perceive things under a different light, but
not others? I don't understand....
Perhaps you're the one who's blind, and you should listen to those of us
trying to open your eyes. ;-)
Jim
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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Huh, and here I thought he wiped out most of the planet with a great
> flood....
it was before the covenant, because He saw what too much free will made to
people.
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2007 11:59:06 -0500, nemesis wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> Huh, and here I thought he wiped out most of the planet with a great
>> flood....
>
> it was before the covenant, because He saw what too much free will made
> to people.
Apparently he got it wrong, because we still have "too much" free will
(whatever that means).
And, of course, then there's the little matter of the Rapture...
Jim
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nemesis wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> nemesis wrote:
>>>> Hey, why be offended? I have good intentions....
>>> "The road to hell is paved with good intentions"
>> Yours too?
>
> yes, sure asking to God for one's well-being shows just about as much good
> intentions as one offering a chicken to Satan for obscure purposes. The only
> difference is Who you're asking for. The road to Heaven is paved with good
> intentions as well.
Wow. I haven't been paying much attention to this thread. Juicy little
bit of arguing and squabbling going on here.
You can't have it both ways can you? If someone is doing something they
genuinely think is helpful to others, how is it determined that it's a
ticket to heaven or hell? Is it as arbitrary as if they do things your
way, you go to heaven, if they do things some other way, it's straight
to hell. Or are you one of those who believe the only path to heaven is
to be "saved" regardless of what you do while you're on earth?
For some reason I all the sudden have the urge to play the song "Highway
to hell" ... ;)
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> The book, from what I've heard of it, uses the idea of a clockwork as its
> premise - something so mechanically complex that it must have been
> created rather than evolved or grown.
Well, mechanical devices don't evolve because they're not alive. It's
very difficult to have darwinian evolution without birth and death and
genetics and such.
But if you set up an ecosystem with gears and hands and weights and
rachets and things like that, and apply selection pressure for accurate
watches, suddenly you get pretty accurate watches evolving.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Phil Cook wrote:
> Therefore there is no Hell.
Yep. And all the carvings on the cathedral where Jesus is guesturing to
Satan (who surprisingly looks *just* like Loki, Pan, and Bacchus) to
drag the unbelievers off in chains to hell? That's just decoration.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Huh, and here I thought he wiped out most of the planet with a great
> flood....
Actually, he quite demanded an awful lot of blood sacrifices. They were
the only way to cleanse sin before Jesus came along. And of course, once
you get into *human* sacrifice, and even diecide, then *finally* he's
satisfied to just take your soul and not your life.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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nemesis wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> Huh, and here I thought he wiped out most of the planet with a great
>> flood....
>
> it was before the covenant, because He saw what too much free will made to
> people.
Cause, like, being omnicient and all, he didn't foresee that.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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