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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 15:05:02
Message: <web.4cc7255462a783f8773c9a3e0@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mca### [at] aolDOTcom> wrote:
> On 26/10/2010 2:59 PM, Invisible wrote:
> > On 26/10/2010 12:54 PM, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> >
> >> People pay ATTENTION when it's about their money!
> >
> > You'd think so, but not necessarily. ;-)
> >
> > (I've heard stories of people putting the receipt in their wallet,
> > throwing the cash in the bin and walking off before they realised what
> > the hell they just did.)
>
> I don't know if I believe that.

I can believe that if Andrew is talking in the third person... :)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 15:33:50
Message: <4cc72d1e$1@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2010 07:56 PM, nemesis wrote:

> BTW, at least in Brazil a large percentage of ATM machines are Linux underneath.
>   How about that for ease of use? ;)

Wikipedia asserts that many newer ATMs run Windows - which would be 
extremely disturbing if true...

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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 15:42:22
Message: <4cc72f1e$1@news.povray.org>

> Fact: Lots of people apparently have trouble operating computers.
>
> Fact: An ATM is a computer.
>
> Fact: In the 30 years I've been alive, I have never met anybody anywhere
> on Earth who has even the slightest difficulty figuring out how to work
> an ATM - with no instruction manual.
>
> I wonder how they do that?

I used to be a part-time bank teller when I was in university and I have 
had to help people figure them out.

Granted, they were older people who were not accustomed to technology 
and were afraid the machine would steal their money.

We also had to tell them NOT to write the PIN on the card itself.
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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 15:45:20
Message: <4cc72fd0$1@news.povray.org>
> I used to be a part-time bank teller when I was in university and I have
> had to help people figure them out.
>
> Granted, they were older people who were not accustomed to technology
> and were afraid the machine would steal their money.

Hmm, I may have missed a step: How about a telephone? It's not a 
computer, but it sort of talks to one. How many people can't work a 
telephone?

(Working an iPhone is another matter, of course...)

> We also had to tell them NOT to write the PIN on the card itself.

Oh, I'm sure to this day lots of people write the PIN down and put it in 
their wallet somewhere. Then again, I hear in America people still hide 
their door keys under their doormat...

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 15:50:55
Message: <4cc7311f$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> (I've heard stories of people putting the receipt in their wallet, 

I have been at an ATM with six or seven people in line when someone came 
running up and said all excitedly "Did anyone find the 30 dollars I just 
took out?"


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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 15:52:27
Message: <4cc7317b$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> So can everybody use an ATM because it only performs a very simple task? 
> Or because the people who make them spend a fortune on usability 
> testing? Or something else? Logically, there's got to be a reason.

Some of each. The simpler and more focused the task, the easier it is to 
design something that is easy to use. Especially when you throw sufficient 
UI at it. The "flashing 12:00" problem is that manufacturers didn't want to 
add extra buttons and displays to the box. Once people had a 40-button 
remote control and a genlock in the VCR, that stopped being a problem.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 15:53:13
Message: <4cc731a9$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Wikipedia asserts that many newer ATMs run Windows - which would be 
> extremely disturbing if true...

You would be amazed at how many cash registers, ATMs, and even vending 
machines are actually running Windows.

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   Serving Suggestion:
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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 16:01:15
Message: <4cc7338b@news.povray.org>
On 26/10/2010 8:00 PM, nemesis wrote:
>> I don't know if I believe that.
> I can believe that if Andrew is talking in the third person...:)
>
>
I did not want to say that :-;

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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 17:24:53
Message: <4cc74725@news.povray.org>
>> Wikipedia asserts that many newer ATMs run Windows - which would be
>> extremely disturbing if true...
>
> You would be amazed at how many cash registers, ATMs, and even vending
> machines are actually running Windows.

Why on earth would you pay vast sums of money to use software that only 
provides features that you don't actually need?

I'm not denying your claim, only that it makes no rational sense. I've 
seen Windows running on plenty of PCs in various retail stores. M&S had 
the Windows 2000 logo obviously visible on the touchscreens of their 
checkout machines too. And don't even get me started on the video 
adverts I saw on London Euston all proclaiming that "STOP 0x00000001E 
has occurred"...

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: An observation
Date: 26 Oct 2010 17:33:18
Message: <4cc7491e$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 26 Oct 2010 19:18:56 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> So can everybody use an ATM because it only performs a very simple task?

That, and it's a task people do on at least a weekly basis, in general.

Jim


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