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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 22 Sep 2010 16:14:13
Message: <4c9a6395$1@news.povray.org>
On 22/09/2010 06:02 PM, nemesis wrote:

> neverending revelations... pi *has* uppercase... *head spins*

Oh, it's better: The entire Greek alphabet has uppercase and lowercase! :-P

(Although I surprising number of Greek letters, especially uppercase 
ones, look exactly like Roman ones...)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 22 Sep 2010 16:15:24
Message: <4c9a63dc@news.povray.org>
On 22/09/2010 07:52 PM, nemesis wrote:

> and can you think of any of them where the difference between them isn't
> merely size? Take roman letters like "H" or "h" and the difference is
> remarkable. Not such with "lowercase" or "uppercase" greek (at least the
> one's I know).
>
> That's why I saw no difference in the pi symbol: I have no size to
> relate to to tell if it's big or small.

Lowercase sigma looks like a "6", but the uppercase looks more like... 
well, you've seen it, right?

Uppercase mu is an "M", but the lowercase is the "micro" symbol, that 
looks more like a "u".

I could go on... GIYF.

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 22 Sep 2010 16:29:38
Message: <4C9A6739.7000505@gmail.com>
On 22-9-2010 12:35, Invisible wrote:
>> Yeah I recall Sigma a lot in high school maths but I don't recall every
>> seeing Pi in this context. I don't recall when I discovered it, but it
>> was definitely after leaving education.
>
> You obviously had much greater mathematical education than me then!
>
>>> Then, today, I was poking around with MathML and saw the symbol on a
>>> sample page, right-clicked and looked at the mark-up.
>>
>> Or you could have, you know, asked here :-)
>
> What, to cries of GIYF?
>
> Or is that only when *I* ask something? :-P
Probably ;)
Actually no, because to ask google you need to know what it is.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 22 Sep 2010 16:32:34
Message: <4C9A67E9.4000200@gmail.com>
On 22-9-2010 20:52, nemesis wrote:
> Le_Forgeron escreveu:
>> Le 22/09/2010 19:02, nemesis nous fit lire :
>>> neverending revelations... pi *has* uppercase... *head spins*
>>>
>> Take a seat, greek letters have uppercase & lowercase.
>> Now, take a deep breath.
>
> and can you think of any of them where the difference between them isn't
> merely size? Take roman letters like "H" or "h" and the difference is
> remarkable. Not such with "lowercase" or "uppercase" greek (at least the
> one's I know).

Google 'greek alphabet' or something similar.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 23 Sep 2010 04:08:20
Message: <4c9b0af4$1@news.povray.org>
>>> Or you could have, you know, asked here :-)
>>
>> What, to cries of GIYF?
>>
>> Or is that only when *I* ask something? :-P
> Probably ;)
> Actually no, because to ask google you need to know what it is.

This always amused me at school.

"I don't know how to spell X."
"Well look it up in the dictionary then!"
"But - and I refer you to point #1 - I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT! >_<"

Still, usually when I state here that something cannot be Googled, 
usually somebody immediately points out how to Google it...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 23 Sep 2010 07:26:54
Message: <4c9b397e$1@news.povray.org>
On 23/09/2010 9:08 AM, Invisible wrote:
> This always amused me at school.
>
> "I don't know how to spell X."
> "Well look it up in the dictionary then!"
> "But - and I refer you to point #1 - I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT! >_<"
>

I find that Google is good for getting the correct spelling.

> Still, usually when I state here that something cannot be Googled,
> usually somebody immediately points out how to Google it...

Maybe people are ignoring you saying that something cannot be googled 
and read it as *you* cannot google it. They then show you how to google it.

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	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 23 Sep 2010 07:59:44
Message: <4c9b4130@news.povray.org>
>> This always amused me at school.
>>
>> "I don't know how to spell X."
>> "Well look it up in the dictionary then!"
>> "But - and I refer you to point #1 - I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SPELL IT! >_<"
>
> I find that Google is good for getting the correct spelling.

Yes - but you must be careful that it's spelt the word you actually 
want. (!)

>> Still, usually when I state here that something cannot be Googled,
>> usually somebody immediately points out how to Google it...
>
> Maybe people are ignoring you saying that something cannot be googled
> and read it as *you* cannot google it. They then show you how to google it.

Well, whatever. In the case of knowing the Greek alphabet, this is 
trivially searchable. Indeed, you just need to type "Greek alphabet" 
into Wikipedia...


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 23 Sep 2010 08:14:09
Message: <4c9b4491$1@news.povray.org>
On 9/22/2010 12:02 PM, nemesis wrote:

>
> neverending revelations... pi *has* uppercase... *head spins*
>

Greek, like Latin has both upper and lower case.

-- 
~Mike


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 23 Sep 2010 08:19:10
Message: <4c9b45be$1@news.povray.org>
On 9/23/2010 6:59 AM, Invisible wrote:


> Well, whatever. In the case of knowing the Greek alphabet, this is
> trivially searchable. Indeed, you just need to type "Greek alphabet"
> into Wikipedia...

That is, of course, if you know the character you're looking at belongs 
to the Greek alphabet. Otherwise, googling is futile.

Though, I guess since it's a mathematical symbol chances are, it's Greek.
-- 
~Mike


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Gah...
Date: 23 Sep 2010 08:26:01
Message: <4c9b4759@news.povray.org>
On 23/09/2010 01:15 PM, Mike Raiford wrote:

>> Well, whatever. In the case of knowing the Greek alphabet, this is
>> trivially searchable. Indeed, you just need to type "Greek alphabet"
>> into Wikipedia...
>
> That is, of course, if you know the character you're looking at belongs
> to the Greek alphabet. Otherwise, googling is futile.

The original statement was "wait, Greek has uppercase?!"

> Though, I guess since it's a mathematical symbol chances are, it's Greek.

Good luck looking up Aleph and Beth. ;-)


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