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From: Patrick Elliott
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 1 Sep 2010 15:19:41
Message: <4c7ea74d$1@news.povray.org>
On 9/1/2010 8:30 AM, Darren New wrote:
> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> Or to be precise "To whom did you give it?" :-)
>
> Except that's a contortion to avoid putting a preposition at the end of
> a sentence that isn't problematic to put at the end of a sentence.
>
You do know that the rule in question was one proposed by one man, for 
no good reason, and for a similar lack of logic or purpose, then 
adopted? It was never part of the original English until then, and makes 
about as much sense as reverting to pre-Middle English, where half the 
words we use would require extra vowels, or consonants to spell them, or 
worse, Middle English, where there was a trend to simply remove as many 
vowels are possible.

In short, its a stupid rule, and there is one single fool to blame for 
proposing it at all.

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 1 Sep 2010 16:48:20
Message: <4c7ebc14$1@news.povray.org>
Patrick Elliott wrote:
> On 9/1/2010 8:30 AM, Darren New wrote:
>> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>>> Or to be precise "To whom did you give it?" :-)
>>
>> Except that's a contortion to avoid putting a preposition at the end of
>> a sentence that isn't problematic to put at the end of a sentence.
>>
> You do know that the rule in question was one proposed by one man, for 
> no good reason,

Well, I think the original rule makes sense, just like it makes sense to say 
"don't use more words than you need."  But it's like the people who spell it 
"recieve" because they think "I before E" - if you leave off the details, 
the rule becomes nonsensical.

> In short, its a stupid rule, and there is one single fool to blame for 
> proposing it at all.

It's definitely not something up with which we should put!

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 2 Sep 2010 03:53:46
Message: <op.vieavy1kmn4jds@phils>
And lo On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 16:30:04 +0100, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>  
did spake thusly:

> Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> Or to be precise "To whom did you give it?" :-)
>
> Except that's a contortion to avoid putting a preposition at the end of  
> a sentence that isn't problematic to put at the end of a sentence.

Hence the smiley.

-- 
Phil Cook

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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 5 Sep 2010 22:16:28
Message: <87r5h7limk.fsf@fester.com>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> writes:

> preposition was necessary. The actual rule is to not add an extra
> preposition that doesn't change the sentence.


Always remember to never split the infinitive.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 8 Sep 2010 10:44:04
Message: <4c87a134@news.povray.org>
Another irritating thing, when giving tech support:

me> what version are you running?
them> latest

I either reply with "that's not a version" or with "no wonder you have 
trouble, the 'latest' code isn't anywhere near ready for use yet".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 8 Sep 2010 12:13:05
Message: <4c87b611@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Another irritating thing, when giving tech support:
> 
> me> what version are you running?
> them> latest

Man, I'd love to work at a place that only has one latest version.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 8 Sep 2010 13:50:17
Message: <4c87ccd9@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>> Another irritating thing, when giving tech support:
>> 
>> me> what version are you running?
>> them> latest
> 
> Man, I'd love to work at a place that only has one latest version.

I wasn't talking about "work" :P I think an actual case was "What POV-Ray 
version?" "The latest" "Well that's why you have problems, use 3.6 instead 
of 3.7b35"

And in many cases the above happened, there wasn't only one latest version, 
in fact...


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From: Phil Cook v2
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 9 Sep 2010 04:48:10
Message: <op.virb2lr9mn4jds@phils>
And lo On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:38:34 +0100, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> did  
spake thusly:

I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the missed opportunity you had here

"10 things that irritate me"

Feel free to groan :-P

-- 
Phil Cook

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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 9 Sep 2010 08:07:50
Message: <4c88ce16@news.povray.org>
On 9/9/2010 3:48 AM, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
> And lo On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:38:34 +0100, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>
> did spake thusly:
>
> I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the missed opportunity you had here
>
> "10 things that irritate me"
>

Those that don't understand binary and Hmm... What's the other thing 
that would be related?

-- 
~Mike


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Two things that irritate me
Date: 9 Sep 2010 21:34:41
Message: <4c898b31$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> On 9/9/2010 3:48 AM, Phil Cook v2 wrote:
>> And lo On Sat, 28 Aug 2010 19:38:34 +0100, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>
>> did spake thusly:
>>
>> I'm surprised no-one's mentioned the missed opportunity you had here
>>
>> "10 things that irritate me"
>>
> 
> Those that don't understand binary and Hmm... What's the other thing
> that would be related?

All those stupid blog posts and news articles with useless top-10 lists?


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