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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 15:04:03
Message: <4c780c23@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:31:08 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Sure.  My point is that people didn't think *first* and then act, and
>> that's a troubling trend overall to me in business these days.
> 
> They did. They just didn't think of all of it.  It's not even clear to
> me that Bidzos was involved in the decision.

The reaction to me looked like an "oh, crap, undo, undo, undo!" reaction.

> Note that I'm not saying they didn't screw up. I just don't think it's
> enough of a big deal that it's going to affect my purchasing habits.
> Unlike, for example, how the stories of the app store affect my desire
> to write code for iphones.

A fair point.

>> Quite possibly, though I think if the lawyers were involved, they'd
>> have done a more thorough risk analysis.
> 
> Lawyers don't do PR risk analysis. :-)

My experience is different - well, not PR risk, but a cost analysis is 
part of the process, and the cost of additional PR to control a situation 
is an important part.  Though in my experience as well, the lawyers (the 
good ones) will tell you what they'll be able to defend, and leave the 
decision to the business to make.

>  > But that's from the outside looking
>> in, and the picture from the inside may well be very different from
>> what the public sees.
> 
> Yes. That's kind of my point.

:-)

>>>> Honestly, I think it would be in the best interests of eReader
>>>> manufacturers not to lock consumers in.  You see this with gaming
>>>> consoles as well - someone wants a particular game, they've got to
>>>> purchase a particular game console if there's an exclusivity clause
>>>> in their contracts.
>>> Kindle is, amusingly, doing just the opposite. You can get like 30% of
>>> the sales of your book, or you can get 70% the sales of your book if
>>> you don't rip off Kindle users or lock them into a specific format.
>> 
>> I'm not sure I follow what you're saying here.
> 
> I'm saying that Amazon has two contracts for you publishing books on the
> Kindle. The usual one, where you get some small percentage of the fact
> value of the book, and one where you get a surprisingly large percentage
> of the face value if you're not a dick about it. I.e., if you charge
> less than physical delivery, don't lock the book to a specific platform,
> don't defer the electronic publishing until people who really want it
> have gone out and bought the hardback, etc etc etc, then you get a much
> higher royalty rate.

Oh, I see - that's an interesting approach.

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 15:04:31
Message: <4c780c3f$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:33:00 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> One of the books I want to read in eBook format is an anthology of sci
>> fi short stories that was edited by Greenberg and Asimov (and a couple
>> others) back in 1978.
> 
> 
> I'm rather surprised how often I run across old out-of-print books that
> someone has scanned. You might try looking around. What's it called?

I looked around for it, but didn't have any luck.  It's called "100 Great 
Science Fiction Short Stories".

Jim


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 15:06:43
Message: <4c780cc3$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:38:37 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> I had about 4 hours.  The screen is too glossy (makes a great mirror,
>> but if you've got an overhead light, you have to position yourself so
>> the light doesn't reflect directly off the screen).  It also attracts
>> fingerprints like a magnet and I'm sure after some time dust can become
>> an issue.  I'd be constantly wiping the screen off.
> 
> Yeah. I just noted it was nice and crisp and bright. I would be
> surprised if Apple wasn't smart enough to not put overhead lights over
> the tables with the iPads on them. :-)

Very likely; indirect lighting is generally much easier on the eyes, and 
in the office the lighting is only about 60% indirect.

>> That's cool, what kind of fee and was it per magazine?  The one
>> magazine I read anymore is Linux Format, and as a subscriber I can get
>> the issues/ articles as PDF for free.
> 
> $5/week for everything.
> 
> Interestingly, when I turned on the radio in Germany, it spontaneously
> downloded a document called "Important notice on fees for travelers" or
> some such, detailing what was and was not different.

Interesting - so "everything" is any magazine they carry that you want to 
read?

>> Well, until cable attenuation breaks it, but for power that's not a
>> huge deal.  :-)
> 
> I would think that few would sell commercial USB cables too long to even
> run a USB drive over. I wonder if a sufficiently long cable makes USB
> drop back from 2.0 to 1.1 speed?

Probably.

>> That may be what happened the first couple of nights - I'd go to sleep
>> and it'd be at 70% power, and wake up and the battery was drained. 
>> That seemed odd to me, but last night it was fine - but I was in
>> Airplane mode.
> 
> I'm up to the third or fourth day of reading pretty steadily and
> basically keeping it awake as much as possible, and I'm about 1/2 to 1/3
> battery now, with the radio on. Kindle keeps it on in case you buy
> something online that gets pushed down to your device, or if you have
> subscriptions updating.
> 
> Once the experiment is over, I'll turn the radio back off. :-)
> 
> Also, lots of these kinds of batteries take a few charge/discharge
> cycles to reach their full potential.

That's true, which is why I haven't done anything about it yet.  My 
battery came almost fully charged, but they say they're not charged, so 
we'll see how it goes.

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 16:16:11
Message: <4c781d0b$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> I looked around for it, but didn't have any luck.  It's called "100 Great 
> Science Fiction Short Stories".

Is that the one with the white cover and green circle-like something or 
other on the cover? With all the stories just like 2 or 3 pages long?

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 16:18:21
Message: <4c781d8d$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> Interesting - so "everything" is any magazine they carry that you want to 
> read?

Basically, it was $4.99 / week for subscriptions to be downloaded, $0.99/meg 
to download something of your own wirelessly (rather than the usual 
$0.15/meg), and everything else was still free (or, rather, already included 
in the cost of the book or device).


-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 16:54:56
Message: <4C782634.7040402@gmail.com>
On 27-8-2010 5:50, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:06:13 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> 
>> andrel wrote:
>>>> If you want to email it to me, I'll put it on my Kindle and watch it
>>>> churn. :-)
>>> done
>> Mine says it can't be opened "due to embedded features not yet supported
>> by Kindle."  It doesn't even try, or display the textual part.
>>
>> It says "(SECURED)" in the title bar of the PC window, tho, so I'm not
>> sure if it's just the 3D or the copy protection.
> 
> That's possible as well, I've had trouble with content restrictions in 
> PDF on the Nook.  When I get some time, I want to try enabling a few 
> different options and see what the results are.

I have that as well in the title bar on my PC. Still, it does work, so I 
assume it means something else, but who knows. I await any news on 
option settings.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 17:55:35
Message: <4c783457@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> I have that as well in the title bar on my PC. Still, it does work, so I 
> assume it means something else, but who knows. I await any news on 
> option settings.

If you look at "properties" it tells you what actions are restricted and 
what aren't.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 18:08:31
Message: <4c78375f$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:16:07 -0700, Darren New wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> I looked around for it, but didn't have any luck.  It's called "100
>> Great Science Fiction Short Stories".
> 
> Is that the one with the white cover and green circle-like something or
> other on the cover? With all the stories just like 2 or 3 pages long?

The cover isn't what you describe, but the content is.

The cover can be seen here:

http://www.amazon.com/Great-Science-Fiction-Short-Stories/dp/0380507730

Hadn't actually noticed the used price for the paperback edition was 
$3.14, I had noticed the new price...

Jim


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 18:31:16
Message: <4c783cb4$1@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:
> The cover isn't what you describe, but the content is.
> The cover can be seen here:

Oh yeah. I have that one somewhere too. It's a different book than I was 
talking about.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Quoth the raven:
        Need S'Mores!


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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: kindle
Date: 27 Aug 2010 21:22:32
Message: <8739tzo7ga.fsf@fester.com>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> writes:

> Possibly, but from my point of view, I'm paying for the content, not the 

Yes, but that's what may change. It may shift to paying for _service_.


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