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From: Francois Labreque
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 21 Aug 2010 09:56:55
Message: <4c6fdb27$1@news.povray.org>

> On 8/19/2010 3:47 AM, Warp wrote:
>> Kevin Wampler<wam### [at] uwashingtonedu>  wrote:
>>> Is there a typical sort of punchline to jokes about Finns?
>>
>>    Not that I know of.
>>
>>>   The main negative stereotypes I've heard is that
>>> they're untalkative surely drunks (who you additionally don't want to
>>> get into a war with), but this is based on about four web comics I read
>>> a year ago, so I have no idea if that's actually what the stereotype is.
>>
>>    Well, the stereotypical Finn doesn't show emotions and always looks 
>> like
>> he/she is mourning, and doesn't communicate.
>>
>>    While that's an exaggeration, it's actually not *completely* 
>> fictitious.
>> For example get a bus ride eg. in Spain and in Finland, and you'll notice
>> the significant difference (in the amount of loud chatter and the average
>> expression on people's faces).
>>
> 
> It might have something to do with the amount of sunlight.
> 
Which is exactly the same over the course of a year.

Sure they have less of it in winter, but they have much more in the Summer.

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 21 Aug 2010 10:10:45
Message: <4C6FDE74.6050807@gmail.com>
On 21-8-2010 15:56, Francois Labreque wrote:

>> On 8/19/2010 3:47 AM, Warp wrote:
>>> Kevin Wampler<wam### [at] uwashingtonedu>  wrote:
>>>> Is there a typical sort of punchline to jokes about Finns?
>>>
>>>    Not that I know of.
>>>
>>>>   The main negative stereotypes I've heard is that
>>>> they're untalkative surely drunks (who you additionally don't want to
>>>> get into a war with), but this is based on about four web comics I read
>>>> a year ago, so I have no idea if that's actually what the stereotype 
>>>> is.
>>>
>>>    Well, the stereotypical Finn doesn't show emotions and always 
>>> looks like
>>> he/she is mourning, and doesn't communicate.
>>>
>>>    While that's an exaggeration, it's actually not *completely* 
>>> fictitious.
>>> For example get a bus ride eg. in Spain and in Finland, and you'll 
>>> notice
>>> the significant difference (in the amount of loud chatter and the 
>>> average
>>> expression on people's faces).
>>>
>>
>> It might have something to do with the amount of sunlight.
>>
> Which is exactly the same over the course of a year.
> 
> Sure they have less of it in winter, but they have much more in the Summer.
> 
Only in hours not in intensity.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 22 Aug 2010 03:15:21
Message: <4c70ce88@news.povray.org>
andrel <byt### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> >> It might have something to do with the amount of sunlight.
> >>
> > Which is exactly the same over the course of a year.
> > 
> > Sure they have less of it in winter, but they have much more in the Summer.
> > 
> Only in hours not in intensity.

  Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a population
(even though saying so is not always fully politically correct because
of some implications).

  In countries where winter is long and very cold, surviving is harder
than in countries where the climate is more moderate the entire year.
The climate causes a significant emphasis on agriculture and farming,
especially due to the harsh winter conditions. Surviving in such a
climate requires significantly more work. This inevitably affects the
culture of the people compared to warmer countries.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 22 Aug 2010 06:15:21
Message: <4c70f8b9$1@news.povray.org>
On 22/08/2010 8:15 AM, Warp wrote:
>    Climate can have a significant effect in the culture of a population
> (even though saying so is not always fully politically correct because
> of some implications).
>

I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?

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	Stephen


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 22 Aug 2010 06:39:31
Message: <4c70fe63$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:

> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?

It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical, 
despite the obvious truth of this fact.

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 22 Aug 2010 06:46:43
Message: <4c710013$1@news.povray.org>
Am 22.08.2010 12:39, schrieb Orchid XP v8:
> Stephen wrote:
>
>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>
> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
> despite the obvious truth of this fact.

Nicely put.

Which is why PC is bullshit. Though I guess it's not PC to claim that...


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 22 Aug 2010 07:15:55
Message: <4c7106eb$1@news.povray.org>
On 22/08/2010 11:39 AM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Stephen wrote:
>
>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>
> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
> despite the obvious truth of this fact.
>

Yes but that is not what Warp said nor implied, by my reading.


cultures. What is non-PC about that?


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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 22 Aug 2010 08:40:00
Message: <web.4c71198e7f4b1dd21d5b3dfa0@news.povray.org>
Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>   In countries where winter is long and very cold, surviving is harder
> than in countries where the climate is more moderate the entire year.
> The climate causes a significant emphasis on agriculture and farming,
> especially due to the harsh winter conditions. Surviving in such a
> climate requires significantly more work. This inevitably affects the
> culture of the people compared to warmer countries.

no doubt.  All the heat may also be an invitation for a siesta or a quick visit
to the beach or the local river.  All of which is aggravated by the fact that a
global capitalist society demands europe-fashioned business suits everywhere, be
it cold or warm...

OTOH, I guess aside from farmers, programmers around the world still put about
the same amount of work everywhere.  Isolated from the weather by air
conditioning, the most heat we experience is from the CPU and our brains...


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 22 Aug 2010 12:45:30
Message: <4c71542a@news.povray.org>
>>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>>
>> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
>> despite the obvious truth of this fact.
>>
> 
> Yes but that is not what Warp said nor implied, by my reading.


> cultures. What is non-PC about that?

It implies that different cultures are different. According to PC, 
everything must be the same, identical, uniform, equal. To suggest that 
people or cultures have differences is blasphemy.

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Wow
Date: 22 Aug 2010 12:55:57
Message: <4c71569d@news.povray.org>
On 22/08/2010 5:45 PM, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> I agree with what you say but what is not PC about it?
>>>
>>> It is not PC to imply that people are not all equal and identical,
>>> despite the obvious truth of this fact.
>>>
>>
>> Yes but that is not what Warp said nor implied, by my reading.


>> cultures. What is non-PC about that?
>
> It implies that different cultures are different. According to PC,
> everything must be the same, identical, uniform, equal. To suggest that
> people or cultures have differences is blasphemy.
>

Cr*p!
It is saying that different cultures are inferior that is wrong not that 
they are different.


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Best Regards,
	Stephen


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