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On 5/21/2010 3:00 AM, Invisible wrote:
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> Man, I had no idea card readers persisted so long!
>
What? You don't remember the whole US Election "hanging chad" debacle of 
2000? Those were punch cards... :)
-- 
~Mike
 
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>> Man, I had no idea card readers persisted so long!
> 
> What? You don't remember the whole US Election "hanging chad" debacle of 
> 2000? Those were punch cards... :)
...there was a US Election in 2000?
 
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On 5/21/2010 8:59 AM, Invisible wrote:
>>> Man, I had no idea card readers persisted so long!
>>
>> What? You don't remember the whole US Election "hanging chad" debacle
>> of 2000? Those were punch cards... :)
>
> ...there was a US Election in 2000?
There's one every 4 years ... the last one was in 2008.
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~Mike
 
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>>> What? You don't remember the whole US Election "hanging chad" debacle
>>> of 2000? Those were punch cards... :)
>>
>> ...there was a US Election in 2000?
> 
> There's one every 4 years ... the last one was in 2008.
My point being that the rest of the world probably doesn't take as much 
notice as the US itself does. ;-)
 
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:56:32 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>> When your entire life has taught you that expending almost unbounded
>>> amounts of effort always produces no results, it becomes increasingly
>>> hard to find motivation...
>> 
>> BTDTGTTS.
> 
> I wonder if it's possible to use some kind of Markov-chain method to
> probabalistically determine what random initialisms mean?
http://tinyurl.com/24egq37
>> Taking control takes effort, and it is/can be a trial-and- error
>> process.  Doesn't mean it's impossible.
> 
> Sure. If some things worked and some things didn't, I could handle that.
> But when *nothing* works, where do you go next?
Ask for advice from someone with more experience.  And then follow that 
advice.  Iterate until success is achieved.
Jim
 
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 15:58:27 +0100, Invisible wrote:
>>>> What? You don't remember the whole US Election "hanging chad" debacle
>>>> of 2000? Those were punch cards... :)
>>>
>>> ...there was a US Election in 2000?
>> 
>> There's one every 4 years ... the last one was in 2008.
> 
> My point being that the rest of the world probably doesn't take as much
> notice as the US itself does. ;-)
Actually, a fair amount of the world does take notice, because the US is 
seen by many to be the one remaining "superpower" and the presidential 
election has a pretty significant effect on the rest of the world.
But Mike is wrong about there being an election every 4 years; there's an 
election every 2 years, just the "big" ones are every 4 years.
Jim
 
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:59:36 +0200, scott wrote:
>>> 10e8
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>> Sounds more like 100 million to me, unless I can't count. ;-)
> 
> I think you (and I) can't count!
<g>
Jim
 
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On Fri, 21 May 2010 08:59:36 +0200, scott wrote:
>>> 10e8
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>> Sounds more like 100 million to me, unless I can't count. ;-)
> 
> I think you (and I) can't count!
Or indeed, looking at it now, 10e8 = 1e9.  Duh. :-)
Jim
 
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On 05/20/10 18:12, Darren New wrote:
> Neeum Zawan wrote:
>> On 05/19/10 09:51, Darren New wrote:
>>> scott wrote:
>>>> separate words for 10e9 and 10e12, so there is no such confusion.
>>> And chinese uses steps of 10e5 or so, rather than 10e3.  My wife always
>>
>>     Wow. Another one. I wonder how long this has been going on without
>> people noticing.
>>
>>     I recently bugged a guy at work for doing this.
> 
> Heh. It's rather confusing to *me* when she starts talking about "there
> was at first a hundred thousand people, then a thousand thousand
> people!" and similar convolutions. We don't have a word for ten thousand
> as such, or I'm sure it would get even more confusing instead of just a
> pause while the translation goes on.
	Eh. I wasn't referring to the vagaries of the Chinese number system naming.
	To give you a clue, 5e3 is not 125.
-- 
AD&D Famous last words: Me first.  Me first!
 
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Neeum Zawan wrote:
> 	Eh. I wasn't referring to the vagaries of the Chinese number system naming.
Yeha, yeah, fine. You understood well enough to correct me, I'll notice.
-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Ada - the programming language trying to avoid
    you literally shooting yourself in the foot.
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