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From: Darren New
Subject: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 12:42:40
Message: <4bed7d80$1@news.povray.org>
http://www.macworld.com/article/150418/2010/04/ipad_stress.html

The first 60 seconds are funny. The rest, only if you plan to buy an iPad.

-- 
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
    Ada - the programming language trying to avoid
    you literally shooting yourself in the foot.


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 14:02:58
Message: <4bed9052$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> http://www.macworld.com/article/150418/2010/04/ipad_stress.html
> 
> The first 60 seconds are funny. The rest, only if you plan to buy an iPad.

...OK. Now I *was* thinking about making a video or two where I talk 
about stuff on YouTube. But watching this has made it utterly clear that 
I must NEVER EVER DO THIS! >_<

Unfortunately, I actually talk like that in real life. :-(


Also... Isn't the iPad like £7,000 or something? How come they can 
afford to take one and just *break* it like that??

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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 14:19:18
Message: <4bed9426$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:02:57 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Also... Isn't the iPad like £7,000 or something?

Um, no?

Try doing a google search for iPad prices and see what it really costs.

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 14:23:49
Message: <4bed9535@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:02:57 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> > Also... Isn't the iPad like ?7,000 or something?

> Um, no?

> Try doing a google search for iPad prices and see what it really costs.

  You see, Andrew has this obsession that anything from Apple is super
expensive, and no amount of evidence is going to change his mind. It's a
futile endeavour.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 14:30:37
Message: <4bed96cd@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 14 May 2010 14:23:49 -0400, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:02:57 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> 
>> > Also... Isn't the iPad like ?7,000 or something?
> 
>> Um, no?
> 
>> Try doing a google search for iPad prices and see what it really costs.
> 
>   You see, Andrew has this obsession that anything from Apple is super
> expensive, and no amount of evidence is going to change his mind. It's a
> futile endeavour.

That anything from anyone is super expensive, for that matter, not just 
Apple.  cf the earlier discussion about the pricing on Adobe CS5.

Jim


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 14:47:43
Message: <4BED9ACD.6060302@gmail.com>
On 14-5-2010 20:30, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 14:23:49 -0400, Warp wrote:
> 
>> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:02:57 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> Also... Isn't the iPad like ?7,000 or something?
>>> Um, no?
>>> Try doing a google search for iPad prices and see what it really costs.
>>   You see, Andrew has this obsession that anything from Apple is super
>> expensive, and no amount of evidence is going to change his mind. It's a
>> futile endeavour.
> 
> That anything from anyone is super expensive, for that matter, not just 
> Apple.  cf the earlier discussion about the pricing on Adobe CS5.

I think his formula is something like: the price of a product when he 
first saw it plus inflation, times the increase in functionality. If the 
product is too new, apply the formula to any other unrelated product of 
the same company.

One of the reasons I hate the internet is that before I post something I 
have to do at least the basic research to see if what I say makes sense 
(is there a name for that ?... ... No, I am not going to :p ). Some 
other people seem not to suffer from that.


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 14:51:56
Message: <4bed9bcc$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Also... Isn't the iPad like £7,000 or something? How come they can
> afford to take one and just *break* it like that??

It costs 500 USD, and Apple claims it's amazingly cheap, like they had to 
work really hard to get it down to that. In fact, apparently they're still 
getting *large* profits on each...


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 15:45:29
Message: <4beda859$1@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:47:41 +0200, andrel wrote:

> On 14-5-2010 20:30, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 14:23:49 -0400, Warp wrote:
>> 
>>> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 19:02:57 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>>> Also... Isn't the iPad like ?7,000 or something?
>>>> Um, no?
>>>> Try doing a google search for iPad prices and see what it really
>>>> costs.
>>>   You see, Andrew has this obsession that anything from Apple is super
>>> expensive, and no amount of evidence is going to change his mind. It's
>>> a futile endeavour.
>> 
>> That anything from anyone is super expensive, for that matter, not just
>> Apple.  cf the earlier discussion about the pricing on Adobe CS5.
> 
> I think his formula is something like: the price of a product when he
> first saw it plus inflation, times the increase in functionality. If the
> product is too new, apply the formula to any other unrelated product of
> the same company.

Perhaps, though my pricing check shows that he's about 10x the actual 
price of the most complex model of iPad (ie, most memory, most network 
options).  That strays into the area of hyperbole pretty quickly.

I mean logically, if it actually were 7000 GBP to buy one, why on Earth 
would anyone consider buying one?  A laptop doesn't cost that much and 
offers a lot more flexibility.  Basic economics says that if Apple priced 
the iPad at that price point, they'd sell about 2 of them because 
everyone else would buy laptops or netbooks.  Hell, a Macbook doesn't 
cost that much (but costs more than an iPad).

> One of the reasons I hate the internet is that before I post something I
> have to do at least the basic research to see if what I say makes sense
> (is there a name for that ?... ... No, I am not going to :p ). Some
> other people seem not to suffer from that.

LOL.

There is a name for it, GIYF.  <j/k>

Jim


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 18:55:39
Message: <4BEDD4E7.1000706@gmail.com>
On 14-5-2010 21:45, Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:47:41 +0200, andrel wrote:
>> One of the reasons I hate the internet is that before I post something I
>> have to do at least the basic research to see if what I say makes sense
>> (is there a name for that ?... ... No, I am not going to :p ). Some
>> other people seem not to suffer from that.
> 
> LOL.
> 
> There is a name for it, GIYF.  <j/k>

That's the wrong way around.
I'd go for GIME (& WIME) if I have to make it up.
GIMM (master) or even GIMSD (slave driver) are closer, but I guess GIME 
is the only one people understand without explanation.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: I LOLed
Date: 14 May 2010 19:02:16
Message: <4bedd678@news.povray.org>
On Sat, 15 May 2010 00:55:35 +0200, andrel wrote:

> On 14-5-2010 21:45, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 May 2010 20:47:41 +0200, andrel wrote:
>>> One of the reasons I hate the internet is that before I post something
>>> I have to do at least the basic research to see if what I say makes
>>> sense (is there a name for that ?... ... No, I am not going to :p ).
>>> Some other people seem not to suffer from that.
>> 
>> LOL.
>> 
>> There is a name for it, GIYF.  <j/k>
> 
> That's the wrong way around.
> I'd go for GIME (& WIME) if I have to make it up. GIMM (master) or even
> GIMSD (slave driver) are closer, but I guess GIME is the only one people
> understand without explanation.

I don't understand. ;-)  (Actually, I can't find a definition for GIME, 
the others were self-explanatory, though)

Jim

Jim


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