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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 14 May 2010 08:49:00
Message: <4bed46bc$1@news.povray.org>
>> So is the Comodo Dragon, apparently. One of the only venemous reptiles
>> in the world...
> 
> Interesting ... I always thought it was because their mouth was so full 
> of nasty bacteria.

So did everybody else, apparently. It has only recently become known 
that they have actual venom.

> Also didn't know there was another set of chromosomes for determining 
> sex. I always thought it was XY, in the dragon's case, it's ZW, which 
> apparently allows for parthenogenesis, producing male offspring without 
> the need for the female laying the eggs to mate.

Sure, by no means all animals use chromosomal sex determination.

Crocodiles use the temperature of the eggs during their development, for 
example. I'm told there's a species of Gobi (that's a fish) that are all 
born male, and all grow up to be female. And let's not even get into the 
number of animals which are simultaneously male *and* female... It's a 
weird, weird world out there!

> Amazing what you can learn by hanging out on the POV newsgroups :)

Uh, affirm that! ;-)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 14 May 2010 09:06:09
Message: <4bed4ac1@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Crocodiles use the temperature of the eggs during their development, for 
> example. I'm told there's a species of Gobi (that's a fish) that are all 
> born male, and all grow up to be female. And let's not even get into the 
> number of animals which are simultaneously male *and* female... It's a 
> weird, weird world out there!

  How about no males at all:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Grassland_Whiptail_Lizard

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 14 May 2010 09:08:03
Message: <4bed4b33$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   How about no males at all:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desert_Grassland_Whiptail_Lizard

...or that, yes. ;-)

I reaffirm: It's a weird world out there.


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 14 May 2010 10:01:28
Message: <4bed57b8@news.povray.org>

: 4bed4b33$1@news.povray.org...
> I reaffirm: It's a weird world out there.
An all-female species? How banal. Just look at these critters:
http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18834-zoologger-the-most-bizarre-life-story-on-earth.html
I've read it several times and I still can't figure out who is having sex 
with who.

BTW, there goes your afternoon: http://www.newscientist.com/topic/zoologger

G.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 14 May 2010 10:40:40
Message: <4bed60e8$1@news.povray.org>
Gilles Tran wrote:

> BTW, there goes your afternoon: http://www.newscientist.com/topic/zoologger

Oh, gee, thanks for that! >_<

http://www.newscientist.com/gallery/dn17247-top-ten-new-species/2

Weirdest snail shell ever?


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 15 May 2010 13:23:27
Message: <4beed88f$1@news.povray.org>
Mike Raiford wrote:
> 1. I wasn't aware platypus's were venomous.
> 
> 2. It appears while not fatal, I definitely wouldn't want to be spurred 
> by one.
> 
> 3. Why only the males? Is this to resolve territory disputes?

Virtually anything that makes males more formidable than females is for 
the purpose of competition over the wimminfolk.

Regards,
John


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From: TC
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 16 May 2010 17:15:38
Message: <4bf0607a$1@news.povray.org>
Australia seems a dangerous place to live in. Poisonous mammals, poisonous 
spiders, snakes, extremely poisonous jellyfish, even very poisonous toads in 
the garden. The alligators seem quite harmless in comparison...

How do Aussies manage to surive to an age to be able to reproduce?


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 20 May 2010 19:50:52
Message: <4bf5cadc$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:

> Sure, by no means all animals use chromosomal sex determination.
> 
> Crocodiles use the temperature of the eggs during their development, for 
> example. I'm told there's a species of Gobi (that's a fish) that are all 
> born male, and all grow up to be female. And let's not even get into the 
> number of animals which are simultaneously male *and* female... It's a 
> weird, weird world out there!

And what we miss from all this variety is the thing in common: 
Virtually all multicellular life reproduces sexually at some phase.

Regards,
John


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 21 May 2010 09:59:58
Message: <4bf691de$1@news.povray.org>
Am 21.05.2010 01:50, schrieb John VanSickle:

> And what we miss from all this variety is the thing in common: Virtually
> all multicellular life reproduces sexually at some phase.

Then again, there's no such thing as a general rule to which all life 
does adhere.

Apparently there /are/ multicellular organisms - even vertebrates - that 
have given up sexual reproduction entirely.


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From: John VanSickle
Subject: Re: Nasty ...
Date: 26 May 2010 07:40:11
Message: <4bfd089b@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> Am 21.05.2010 01:50, schrieb John VanSickle:
> 
>> And what we miss from all this variety is the thing in common: Virtually
>> all multicellular life reproduces sexually at some phase.
> 
> Then again, there's no such thing as a general rule to which all life 
> does adhere.

Which is why I said "virtually all" instead of "all."  There are 
exceptions, but how many are there out of the many thousands of 
identified species of life?

Regards,
John


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