>> Overclocking often leads to buying a new cpu, sooner than later. ;-)
>
> "often"?  More like "pretty much never".  Unless you do something really 
> crazy/stupid (like setting the core voltage way too high with a specialist 
> BIOS) you're not going to fry a CPU.

Well - some people do and some people fry.

Since I once was working in support I know more than enough cases - it 
starts with harmless stuff like "I set BIOS-values to crap, computer does 
not work anymore but I am to stupid to know there is a CMOS-reset-jumper" to 
"I tried to attach a custom fan to the cpu but I thought it a good idea to 
coat >everything that got hot< with thermal paste first - why did it short 
out?". OK, then we have others who dispense with thermal paste at all >and< 
fail to properly affix the new fan to the cpu. Nothing cools better than a 
fan that sits tilted on a cpu...

I won't tell about resistors being ripped off, broken and scratched 
mainboards, and suchlike. And, of course, the customers >never< did anything 
wrong. All a case of warranty...

One cooling system I once saw should have been installed by a licensed 
plumber.

> In the majority of cases you can overclock without needing any new 
> hardware or having any stability issues.  CPUs are designed to work in 
> absolute worst

IF you know what you are doing and IF you are skilled enough. I gather that 
you are. Most are not.

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>>> Overclocking often leads to buying a new cpu, sooner than later. ;-)
>>
>> "often"?  More like "pretty much never".  Unless you do something really 
>> crazy/stupid (like setting the core voltage way too high with a 
>> specialist BIOS) you're not going to fry a CPU.
>
> Well - some people do and some people fry.
>
> Since I once was working in support I know more than enough cases

I guess you only heard from the ones who failed :-)

Anyway the things you mentioned were just general hardware installation 
issues, nothing really due specifically to overclocking (eg I set the CPU 
voltage/frequency too high and now it's dead).  Did the CPU really die in 
all those cases you mentioned?

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> Anyway the things you mentioned were just general hardware installation
> issues, nothing really due specifically to overclocking (eg I set the CPU
> voltage/frequency too high and now it's dead).  Did the CPU really die in
> all those cases you mentioned?

Not in every case, of course. But death of mainboard (due to installation 
failure) - often. Unstable windows - very often. This really sucked, because 
with windows there always were many things that resulted in an unstable 
system, apart from overclocking or overheating.

My problem is that back then I did only see failure ;-) It was my job to fix 
things if possible. Dirty work. And I really mean it, guess why this pc 
stopped working... (if I cannot post an image to off-topic, I'll try to post 
it in p.b.i - I hope people will forgive me).

BTW: Sorry for posting here, I don't know why Outlook Express decided to put 
it here.

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