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... why you would want to spot-price bid on compute time an hour at a time
and get canceled if it went above a particular price?
http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/02/AppScale-and-the-Commoditization-of-Cloud-Infrastructure
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Darren New wrote:
> ... why you would want to spot-price bid on compute time an hour at a
> time and get canceled if it went above a particular price?
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>
http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/02/AppScale-and-the-Commoditization-of-Cloud-Infrastructure
Interesting, but... why?
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Invisible wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> ... why you would want to spot-price bid on compute time an hour at a
>> time and get canceled if it went above a particular price?
>>
>>
http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/02/AppScale-and-the-Commoditization-of-Cloud-Infrastructure
>
>
> Interesting, but... why?
Why what?
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>>> ... why you would want to spot-price bid on compute time an hour at a
>>> time and get canceled if it went above a particular price?
>>>
>>>
http://blog.wolfire.com/2010/02/AppScale-and-the-Commoditization-of-Cloud-Infrastructure
>>
>> Interesting, but... why?
>
> Why what?
I'm just wondering what all these people are apparently using cloud
computing *for*... I can't think of a good reason.
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Invisible wrote:
> I'm just wondering what all these people are apparently using cloud
> computing *for*... I can't think of a good reason.
All the "web-scale" applications that don't want to buy their own machines.
Reddit, facebook, twitter, etc.
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>> I'm just wondering what all these people are apparently using cloud
>> computing *for*... I can't think of a good reason.
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> All the "web-scale" applications that don't want to buy their own
> machines. Reddit, facebook, twitter, etc.
You would have thought Facebook could afford to buy the entire Internet
multiple times over...
Still not sure what use this is to the average Joe on the street.
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Invisible wrote:
> You would have thought Facebook could afford to buy the entire Internet
> multiple times over...
I wouldn't think so.
> Still not sure what use this is to the average Joe on the street.
OK, so you want to render a thirty-minute POV video, where each second takes
two CPU-minutes to calculate. Begin now.
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>> Still not sure what use this is to the average Joe on the street.
>
> OK, so you want to render a thirty-minute POV video, where each second
> takes two CPU-minutes to calculate. Begin now.
How is this any different to me just going out and buying a big
computer? As far as I can tell, the only difference is that you're
renting compute power rather than buying it. (And as we all know, buying
is usually cheaper than renting except for one-offs.)
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Darren New wrote:
> OK, so you want to render a thirty-minute POV video, where each second
> takes two CPU-minutes to calculate. Begin now.
Should I resurrect my BOINC-POVRay project and get everyone in povray.off-
topic to join and contribute CPU? It wouldn't cost me money that way :)
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> How is this any different to me just going out and buying a big
> computer?
Or going out and buying a couple hundred big computers? To do a week-long
render? Then what?
> As far as I can tell, the only difference is that you're
> renting compute power rather than buying it.
For many "cloud" providers, yes, that's exactly the difference. Plus, you're
renting by the hour, rather than by the month or year. Why would you by 20
high-end computers and rack them up in your house if you can rent it from
someone else?
For Google, you're using proprietary APIs on their cloud, so if you want to
take the bulk of it into your own machines, you can't. Until now, which is
what that announcement was about.
> (And as we all know, buying
> is usually cheaper than renting except for one-offs.)
It depends on how much you get with your rental. Maintenance? Backups? Rack
space? Electricity? Disaster planning? You still have to pay to run the
things, and you still have to have stand-by capacity for overloads.
Of course, with something like Amazon, you can rent until your capacity
warrants buying processors. And then you can use Amazon to handle the
overflow, or the seasonal rush, or the new product announcement, or whatever.
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