Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> http://stason.org/TULARC/os/linux-faq/007-Is-Linux-Unix.html

  Somehow I don't consider "we shouldn't call Linux Unix because nobody has
paid money to some organization in order to get the right to use that name"
as a very relevant argument on the question of whether Linux *is* a Unix
operating system. Just because it cannot *legally* be called that doesn't
mean it isn't.

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Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> Actually, Mac OSX, AIX, and Solaris are a few examples of systems that 
> are UNIX as defined by The Open Group, who owns the trademark.

  So it's mainly a question of money?

  I don't think money is a good argument on the question of whether Linux
is Unix or not.

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Warp wrote:
> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> Actually, Mac OSX, AIX, and Solaris are a few examples of systems that 
>> are UNIX as defined by The Open Group, who owns the trademark.
> 
>   So it's mainly a question of money?
> 
>   I don't think money is a good argument on the question of whether Linux
> is Unix or not.

Given the ones that *are* on the list, I would think it's more along the 
lines that none of the code in Linux was ever in UNIX. It's a completely new 
codebase that happens to do the same thing.  I.e., Linux isn't UNIX just 
like DR-DOS isn't MS-DOS and OS/2 isn't Windows.

It's the color of the bits.

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Invisible wrote:
> Why the **** would you have a *maximum* salary? WTF?

They do the same with selling houses here.  "Accepting offers between $350K 
and $369K."  I asked a real estate agent about it once and asked if they'd 
ever gotten an offer above the minimum.  "No."

I think it's more that if you say "I'll settle for $30K but I'll take up to 
$50K", they'll know how you value yourself better.  I.e., it's a negotiating 
strategy.

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:30:36 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> http://stason.org/TULARC/os/linux-faq/007-Is-Linux-Unix.html
> 
>   Somehow I don't consider "we shouldn't call Linux Unix because nobody
>   has
> paid money to some organization in order to get the right to use that
> name" as a very relevant argument on the question of whether Linux *is*
> a Unix operating system. Just because it cannot *legally* be called that
> doesn't mean it isn't.

Well, The Open Group disagrees with you, and since they own the name, it 
seems that they get to make that decision. :-)

Jim

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On Mon, 01 Feb 2010 12:33:19 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> Actually, Mac OSX, AIX, and Solaris are a few examples of systems that
>> are UNIX as defined by The Open Group, who owns the trademark.
> 
>   So it's mainly a question of money?
> 
>   I don't think money is a good argument on the question of whether
>   Linux
> is Unix or not.

The Open Group disagrees, and since they own the trademark, they get to 
set the rules.

Jim

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Invisible wrote:
>>> Linux *is* Unix
>> 
>> No, it isn't.  Linux is at best a derivative of Minix.  It's UNIX-like,
>> perhaps, but it's not Unix.
> 
> Care to explain that one?

Well, Linux is a kernel; what you download in distros is GNU/Linux, and GNU 
*stands* for "GNU is Not Unix" :)

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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Well, Linux is a kernel; what you download in distros is GNU/Linux, and GNU 
> *stands* for "GNU is Not Unix" :)

  "This name was chosen because GNU's design is Unix-like, but differs from
Unix by being free software and containing no Unix code."

  Well, I suppose you *could* define "a Unix operating system" as
"proprietary operating system containing code from the original OS
named 'Unix'". However, that's not what the vast majority of people
*mean* when they use the term "unix". Being free or proprietary has
nothing to do with it, and "a unix OS" means "behaves like Unix", not
"has code from the original Unix".

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Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> Well, Linux is a kernel; what you download in distros is GNU/Linux, and GNU 
> *stands* for "GNU is Not Unix" :)

Oh snap!

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Warp wrote:
> and "a unix OS" means "behaves like Unix", not
> "has code from the original Unix".

Wouldn't most any POSIX-compliant OS fit this definition?

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