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Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> What *does* SAP do?
>
> It keeps track of *everything*.
>
A good answer Darren LOL
As a SAP functional consultant. (You must keep track of what people tell
you about themselves, Andrew. It is a way to impress the ladies ;) )
It is a management tool but that is from a management point of view and
is a good way to sell it to companies. It is also a software tool to
control most aspects of production, linking together calculating
production demand from sales to buying raw materials in time to produce
the finished goods, to delivering them to your customers. My involvement
is in the maintenance of the production facilities, buying and storing
the spare parts and controlling the labour resources of maintenance
departments. Not that I actually get my hands dirty operating the
system, you understand ;)
SAP integrates all the functions of major companies into one package so
that there is connectivity and transparency throughout the company. It
was sold to multi national companies first (Oil companies,
Pharmaceutical, Chemical, Aero-space, food and beverages etc.) Now
medium sized companies are targeted.
I could go on but I’m sure others will get the point. ;)
--
Best Regards,
Stephen
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 13:26:43 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Nah, I still don't think I'd like that. Managers are supposed to order
> people around, not do the actual technical work. (Not that all managers
> seem to realise this...)
Well, yes and no. I do some management tasks (though I don't have anyone
who directly reports to me - I just noticed a few days ago that my
official job title in our HR system is "Project/Program Manager III" -
which floors me because I never really felt I had good project management
skills (but my public title is "Program Manager" so that fits), but my
boss and director both said they thought I had great project management
skills.
But from the standpoint of "order people around" vs "do the actual
technical work", I do a bit of both; I see my role as being the one with
the vision, but then collaborating with developers and technical people
to come up with a solution we all can live with.
But I also realised earlier this week that I've now spent half my life
working with Novell's products. That was a shocker, because it's 20
years now.
Jim
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:37:18 +0000, Invisible wrote:
> Most managers I've
> seen are in charge of dozens if not hundreds of people.
The ratio of reports:manager depends a lot on whether the reports perform
the same duties or not. You can get 20-50 people reporting to one
manager if all those people do essentially the same job (like answering
phones in a call centre). But if they all do something different, then
it can range from 5-10 at the low end to 20 at the high end, and 20
different "roles" reporting to a manager can get pretty difficult for the
manager to cope with.
My boss has a team of 11 people and a few contractors, but 4 essential
roles (though the larger part of the team who does course development
have additional roles they fill as well, so it's not a precise
measurement of the number of roles), and that seems to be a good ratio.
Jim
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:12:12 +0000, Stephen wrote:
> As a SAP functional consultant.
Interesting, I didn't know that's what you do, Stephen - I may have to
learn a bit about SAP myself in the next little bit.
Jim
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 11:46:55 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
>> sounds like source management control.
>
> You mean like programming source code revision control systems? No.
Well, from the standpoint of "keeping track of everything", yes. :-)
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Well, from the standpoint of "keeping track of everything", yes. :-)
Well, no. It doesn't keep track of who supplied the computer you wrote the
code on and the model and serial numbers of every component in it, which
paycheck covered the time period when you were writing the code, the log of
the call from the customer that asked for the feature that this line of code
implements, the original estimate for the code, who was assigned to design
the feature that line implements, the list of customers who own computers
running this line of code along with their phone numbers so you can issue a
recall if the code is dangerously incorrect, etc etc etc.
Revision control systems only keep track of revisions.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Forget "focus follows mouse." When do
I get "focus follows gaze"?
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On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 15:12:57 -0800, Darren New wrote:
> Well, no. [...]
Depends on how one defines "everything", I guess. My definition is "who,
what, and why" code was changed. :-)
Jim
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> What *does* SAP do?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_SAP_products
In my company I heard we mainly use it for stock control and keeping track
of deliveries to customers (across all product ranges and all sites)- not
that I'm involved in that side of the business at all.
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:12:12 +0000, Stephen wrote:
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>> As a SAP functional consultant.
>
> Interesting, I didn't know that's what you do, Stephen - I may have to
> learn a bit about SAP myself in the next little bit.
>
> Jim
My rates are reasonable :-P
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Best Regards,
Stephen
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On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:20:17 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>> Interesting, I didn't know that's what you do, Stephen - I may have to
>> learn a bit about SAP myself in the next little bit.
>
> My rates are reasonable :-P
LOL
I'll bear that in mind. :-)
Jim
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