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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 15:27:38
Message: <4b5f503a@news.povray.org>
"Jeremy \"UncleHoot\" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecmo> wrote:
> In June of 2009, Michael Jackson was a complete joke.  He was a pedophile 
> who got away with it, and everyone "knew" it.  All of his musical 
> accomplishments were largely forgotten, or swept under the rug.

  You are seeing only one side of it. The internet and tabloids were full
of MJ jokes (and outright insults), but those were just a vocal minority.

  If *everybody* (or even the majority) had thought he was a complete joke,
his albums wouldn't have sold as much as they did.

> For the next 2 months, he was on TV every single day, often MTV or VH1, but 
> nearly every day, someone was running a special about him on some channel. 
> Someone put together a movie.  You'd hear his songs being played in cars as 
> they drove by.  Suddenly, it was perfectly ok to like Michael Jackson again 
> without being laughed at.  Why?

  Because making jokes about a dead person is considered a faux pas.

  Also, the majority who appreciated MJ are now more vocal than the minority
who laughed at him.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 16:17:56
Message: <4b5f5c04$1@news.povray.org>
Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:

> Then he died.

Have you noticed how every time a schoolboy is killed in a tragic 
accident or dies of a horrible disease or is randomly shot by gunmen or 
something, his friends from the school always say "he was a happy, 
out-going boy who was loved by everyone"?

I've never yet heard anybody say "it's a shame he's dead, but actually 
he was a bit of a tosser". Surely some people who get killed *are* not 
well liked. Not that they deserve to die or anything, but surely not 
everybody who gets killed was the very center of the community they 
lived in.

I sometimes wonder what people will say about me after I'm dead. Whether 
they'll claim I was popular and successful, liked by everybody. Or 
whether they'll say the truth: that hardly anybody even noticed me in 
their day to day lives. I can just see the conversation in the tea room 
at work now. "Andrew died." "Oh, that's terrible." "Yeah." "...anyway, 
so what did you do this weekend?"

Of course, most of the people who "know" me are only contactable online, 
so if I did die, most of the people I know would just assume my PC 
stopped working or something...

The fact that I've spent this long thinking about my own death probably 
tells you something about my mental state. o_O

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 16:32:04
Message: <4b5f5f54@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I sometimes wonder what people will say about me after I'm dead.

  I'm sure that we will all be here laughing at your poor literacy,
your bloggish posts and your luck with women (or lack thereof)... ;)

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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 16:40:02
Message: <web.4b5f60e68c349b95773c9a3e0@news.povray.org>
It was not Michael Jackson who died, it was just this sad old freak, you know?
His persona, mannerisms, performances and music will live on.


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 16:49:25
Message: <4B5F6365.1020309@hotmail.com>
On 26-1-2010 22:32, Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I sometimes wonder what people will say about me after I'm dead.
> 
>   I'm sure that we will all be here laughing at your poor literacy,
> your bloggish posts and your luck with women (or lack thereof)... ;)

I don't think so.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 17:20:19
Message: <4b5f6aa2@news.povray.org>
andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> On 26-1-2010 22:32, Warp wrote:
> > Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >> I sometimes wonder what people will say about me after I'm dead.
> > 
> >   I'm sure that we will all be here laughing at your poor literacy,
> > your bloggish posts and your luck with women (or lack thereof)... ;)

> I don't think so.

  Your sense of humor is astounding.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 17:22:41
Message: <4B5F6B31.7070303@hotmail.com>
On 26-1-2010 23:20, Warp wrote:
> andrel <a_l### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>> On 26-1-2010 22:32, Warp wrote:
>>> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>>> I sometimes wonder what people will say about me after I'm dead.
>>>   I'm sure that we will all be here laughing at your poor literacy,
>>> your bloggish posts and your luck with women (or lack thereof)... ;)
> 
>> I don't think so.
> 
>   Your sense of humor is astounding.

Thanks, I aim to please


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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 17:41:37
Message: <4b5f6fa1$1@news.povray.org>
On 01/26/10 12:07, Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
> I'm confused.
> 
> In June of 2009, Michael Jackson was a complete joke.  He was a pedophile 
> who got away with it, and everyone "knew" it.  All of his musical 
> accomplishments were largely forgotten, or swept under the rug.

	You must not have been on the newsgroups when it happened. Certainly,
the "everyone knew it" claim is quite questionable.

> For the next 2 months, he was on TV every single day, often MTV or VH1, but 
> nearly every day, someone was running a special about him on some channel. 
> Someone put together a movie.  You'd hear his songs being played in cars as 
> they drove by.  Suddenly, it was perfectly ok to like Michael Jackson again 
> without being laughed at.  Why?

	You do realize he still had a huge number of fans prior to his death,
right?


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 17:49:42
Message: <4b5f7185@news.povray.org>
Neeum Zawan <m.n### [at] ieeeorg> wrote:
> On 01/26/10 12:07, Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:
> > I'm confused.
> > 
> > In June of 2009, Michael Jackson was a complete joke.  He was a pedophile 
> > who got away with it, and everyone "knew" it.  All of his musical 
> > accomplishments were largely forgotten, or swept under the rug.

>         You must not have been on the newsgroups when it happened. Certainly,
> the "everyone knew it" claim is quite questionable.

  I understood Jeremy to mean that everyone took for granted that he was
guilty, even though there's no actual proof. (After all, in modern society
being accused of child molestation equals being guilty.) I don't think he
meant that *he* takes it for granted.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson
Date: 26 Jan 2010 18:53:56
Message: <4b5f8094$1@news.povray.org>
On 01/26/10 14:49, Warp wrote:
>>         You must not have been on the newsgroups when it happened. Certainly,
>> the "everyone knew it" claim is quite questionable.
> 
>   I understood Jeremy to mean that everyone took for granted that he was
> guilty, even though there's no actual proof. (After all, in modern society

	Yes, and I was questioning that assumption.


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