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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Just leave it run; I usually let my torrents run until either there are 0
> peers for an extended period of time or until I hit a share ratio of
> 1:1. Sometimes I'll let them go longer, but I give priority to those
> with a share ratio below 1:1.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I'm doing. It's just that with such a low
upload speed, almost no peers want to talk to you, so it takes an insane
amount of time to reach parity.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
>
>> I have a 900MB torrent up to share ratio 12.
>>
>> Why not?
>
> Becuase it might take several human lifetimes to reach that ratio?
I have been seeding for 11 days.
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>>> I have a 900MB torrent up to share ratio 12.
>>>
>>> Why not?
>> Becuase it might take several human lifetimes to reach that ratio?
>
> I have been seeding for 11 days.
So I'm guessing you have a much faster connection than me?
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> >>> I have a 900MB torrent up to share ratio 12.
> >>>
> >>> Why not?
> >> Becuase it might take several human lifetimes to reach that ratio?
> >
> > I have been seeding for 11 days.
>
> So I'm guessing you have a much faster connection than me?
I have about your same settings. The largest seeding I've done was about 4.5 or
something.
It doesn't take ages at all: you don't take into account in that formula of
yours the fact that people did not all begin seeding and downloading at the same
time. By the time you begin download, chances are you'll find a few people at
100% and the rest at varying degrees of completion.
Still, I've been able to download at about 300 somethings and seed at about 90
at the same time. It depends on the ratios though.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>>> I have a 900MB torrent up to share ratio 12.
>>>>
>>>> Why not?
>>> Becuase it might take several human lifetimes to reach that ratio?
>>
>> I have been seeding for 11 days.
>
> So I'm guessing you have a much faster connection than me?
3mbit down, 256kbit up.
I set a 20KB/s limit on BitTorrent upload so it doesn't cause problems for
other Internet activity. Currently it seems to be uploading at a constant
18-20KB/s.
Bumping limit up to 25KB/s... Aaaand it's still uploading at pretty constant
speed, averaging 24.96KB/s.
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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> - Downloaders try to download from the fastest uploader [from their
> location on the network].
No, downloaders download from multiple uploaders. Not from "the" fastest.
And I don't think torrent clients care about "location on the network" yet.
> - But wait! This torrent has 450 seeders and 3 downloaders. And I
> sometimes see 200 KB/sec from a single seeder, so... why THE HELL is any
> peer going to download from me at a piffling 40 KB/sec when there are
> peers out there at least 5x faster?
Because downloading from 10 seeders who have 40KB/s will get them the file
fast. The "5x faster" peer isn't fast at all if there are already 30 users
downloading from it!
I have the fastest plan my ISP has, and I seed at 20KB/s. Like, constantly;
not random peaks. And I seem to get pretty good download speed.
I have used BitTorrent from a 128kbit upstream connection with little
trouble.
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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> 3mbit down, 256kbit up.
>
> I set a 20KB/s limit on BitTorrent upload so it doesn't cause problems for
> other Internet activity. Currently it seems to be uploading at a constant
> 18-20KB/s.
>
> Bumping limit up to 25KB/s... Aaaand it's still uploading at pretty constant
> speed, averaging 24.96KB/s.
you're mean. I generally limit at 70KB/s. That is fair enough.
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:57:54 +0100, nemesis <nam### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> 3mbit down, 256kbit up.
>>
>> I set a 20KB/s limit on BitTorrent upload so it doesn't cause problems
>> for
>> other Internet activity. Currently it seems to be uploading at a
>> constant
>> 18-20KB/s.
>>
>> Bumping limit up to 25KB/s... Aaaand it's still uploading at pretty
>> constant
>> speed, averaging 24.96KB/s.
>
> you're mean. I generally limit at 70KB/s. That is fair enough.
That would be rather counterproductive when the upload capacity of his
Internet connection is only 32 kB/s (in theory; practically, it likely
tops out at 25 or so).
--
FE
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>> - Downloaders try to download from the fastest uploader [from their
>> location on the network].
>
> No, downloaders download from multiple uploaders. Not from "the" fastest.
> And I don't think torrent clients care about "location on the network" yet.
Download speed is used as an approximation for network proximity. And
yes, each machine downloads from multiple peers, but it tries to select
the fastest such peers.
>> - But wait! This torrent has 450 seeders and 3 downloaders. And I
>> sometimes see 200 KB/sec from a single seeder, so... why THE HELL is any
>> peer going to download from me at a piffling 40 KB/sec when there are
>> peers out there at least 5x faster?
>
> Because downloading from 10 seeders who have 40KB/s will get them the file
> fast. The "5x faster" peer isn't fast at all if there are already 30 users
> downloading from it!
Fair enough...
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> Now, here's where it all falls apart:
>
> - I have ADSL. That stands for ASYMMETRIC Digital Subscriber Line. In
> laymen's terms, by download rate is about 5x faster than my upload rate. I
> can download at the speedy rate of around 310 KB/sec, but I can only
> *upload* at a maximum of about 46 KB/sec.
>
> - This means that it is physically impossible for me to upload
> particularly fast. That should hypothetically result in low download
> speeds.
I don't think it matters does it? My ADSL maximum upload speed is about 45
KB/sec too, but if I let BT use all that then other web browsing etc grinds
to a halt. So I have the global upload rate limited to 32 KB/sec in my BT
client, and downloads still go at 600+ KB/sec if it's a popular file.
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