Orchid XP v8 escreveu:
>>> Yes, because crude approximations
>>
>> Who said anything about crude?  You said a billion triangles, on a 
>> 1920x1200 screen that makes each triangle about 1/500th of a pixel.
> 
> Fundamentally, what it comes down to is this: No matter how smooth it 
> looks, *I* would know it's fake. And that would seriously annoy me.

doesn't it bother you then that computers math operations use fake real 
numbers?  It's all fake.  I don't mind if it doesn't show.

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nemesis wrote:

> doesn't it bother you then that computers math operations use fake real 
> numbers?

The fact that they're fake doesn't bother me.

The fact that it's a non-associative algebra is a little disturbing 
though... o_O

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>> Fundamentally, what it comes down to is this: No matter how smooth it 
>> looks, *I* would know it's fake. And that would seriously annoy me.
> 
> So pixels bug you, huh?

Well... given the choice, I am a vector graphics kind of guy. ;-)

I haven't yet come up with a ray to raytrace something and come up with 
a vector description though. I'm guessing this is highly, *highly* 
intractable.

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Warp wrote:
> 
>   Does everything have to have a reason behind it? 

Yes.

> Can't things be done just
> for the fun of it?
> 

Isn't that a valid reason?

-Aero

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Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > 
> >   Does everything have to have a reason behind it? 

> Yes.

> > Can't things be done just
> > for the fun of it?
> > 

> Isn't that a valid reason?

  Reason implies logic. Fun doesn't always involve logic.

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On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 20:54:06 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>> > 
>> >   Does everything have to have a reason behind it?
> 
>> Yes.
> 
>> > Can't things be done just
>> > for the fun of it?
>> > 
>> > 
>> Isn't that a valid reason?
> 
>   Reason implies logic. Fun doesn't always involve logic.

It's also not mutually exclusive.

Jim

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Warp wrote:
> 
>   Reason implies logic. Fun doesn't always involve logic.
> 

Yes. Doing X because of Y makes Y the reason to do X - that certainly is
logical :). IMO fun is universally a valid value for Y as long as no-one
gets hurt.

Or have I misunderstood the meaning of the word "reason"?

-Aero

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On 12/18/09 19:54, Warp wrote:
> Eero Ahonen<aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid>  wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>>    Does everything have to have a reason behind it?
>
>> Yes.
>
>>> Can't things be done just
>>> for the fun of it?
>>>
>
>> Isn't that a valid reason?
>
>    Reason implies logic. Fun doesn't always involve logic.

	But doing something for fun is usually logical.

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Eero Ahonen <aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid> wrote:
> Or have I misunderstood the meaning of the word "reason"?

  I was playing with the two distinct meanings of the word.

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>> I thought all games used per-pixel lighting now?
>
> Apparently HL2 doesn't. (They've upgraded the Source engine several times 
> since then, so maybe it does now. I doubt it.)

HL2 has normal mapping, so it definitely does use per-pixel lighting, at 
least on some surfaces. It samples from three lightmaps representing the 
light coming from three directions, and then does dot products with the 
normal to determine the total light on a pixel.

Characters do something similar but without light maps.

 - Slime
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