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From: M a r c
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 25 Nov 2009 09:25:51
Message: <4b0d3e6f@news.povray.org>

4b0cfaef$1@news.povray.org...
>>> We call it "sun tax". ;-)
>>
>> They have sun in SF?
>
> Dunno, when I was there is was foggy as hell the whole time (this was 
> January though).
>
They have fog in hell?

Marc


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 25 Nov 2009 10:31:57
Message: <4b0d4ded$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
>>> We call it "sun tax". ;-)
>>
>> They have sun in SF?
> 
> Dunno, when I was there is was foggy as hell the whole time (this was 
> January though).

Only at the lower elevations.

Well, *we* call it Sun Tax.  I don't know what San Fran calls it.

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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 25 Nov 2009 11:25:50
Message: <4b0d5a8e$1@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez wrote:
> What are you talking about? Wikipedia doesn't have ads and refuses to have 
> them.

I stand correct on this, but almost everyone in The Net is doing Google 
Ads SPECIALLY .org/non-profit/open-source precisely to aid them pay 
their costs and will make much sense for Wikipedia to do so.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 25 Nov 2009 17:14:31
Message: <4b0dac47$1@news.povray.org>
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:20:40 -0500, Warp wrote:

>   Of course the size are not comparable, but still 10 million dollars
> seems like quite a lot.

I agree, when I saw that donation amount on the website, I about fell out 
of my chair.

Jim


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 25 Nov 2009 23:45:43
Message: <4b0e07f7$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   How much does the average plane flight from one city to another in the
> US cost?

http://travel.aol.com/

I have seen offers as low as USD 25 per ticket, since I have aim.com 
free e-mail accounts, and usually browse the 'AIM Today' news.

I have seen throughout my life that 'Americans' a.k.a. USA Citizens 
(Actually anyone living in the American continent is an American), like 
to live big and spend big, that's why the inflated salaries everywhere, 
this causes 'extra' expenses to be huge, since they always have a big 
"spare".


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 26 Nov 2009 04:25:50
Message: <4b0e499e$1@news.povray.org>
>>   Of course the size are not comparable, but still 10 million dollars
>> seems like quite a lot.
> 
> I agree, when I saw that donation amount on the website, I about fell out 
> of my chair.

Yeah, I keep wondering why anybody would denote. I mean, worst case 
scenario: Wikipedia vanishes off the face of the Internet.

...and we care because...?

(And hell, I spend my *entire day* on there mostly!)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 26 Nov 2009 05:48:54
Message: <4b0e5d16@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Yeah, I keep wondering why anybody would denote. I mean, worst case 
> scenario: Wikipedia vanishes off the face of the Internet.

  I don't think wikipedia would vanish if they lowered their budget a bit.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 26 Nov 2009 05:51:38
Message: <4b0e5dba$1@news.povray.org>
>> Yeah, I keep wondering why anybody would denote. I mean, worst case 
>> scenario: Wikipedia vanishes off the face of the Internet.
> 
>   I don't think wikipedia would vanish if they lowered their budget a bit.

Neither do I. I was proposing the Worst Case Scenario. (And pointing out 
that even that isn't especially bad.)


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 28 Nov 2009 13:28:22
Message: <4b116bc6@news.povray.org>
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:48:54 -0500, Warp wrote:

> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Yeah, I keep wondering why anybody would denote. I mean, worst case
>> scenario: Wikipedia vanishes off the face of the Internet.
> 
>   I don't think wikipedia would vanish if they lowered their budget a
>   bit.

I think they want us to think that's the case, but I agree with you....

Jim


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Wikipedia Forever
Date: 30 Nov 2009 03:54:34
Message: <4b13884a$1@news.povray.org>
>  What do they need 10 million dollars for?

Slide 15 explains how it's broken down:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/foundation/a/a3/2009-10_Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan_FINAL_July2.pdf

Majority ($3m) is on salaries, if they employ 35 people that's $85k per 

employee) - don't forget that's how much it costs the company, not how much 
the employee gets.


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