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Darren New schrieb:
>> First question: How can I get Tk to use the window manager's look &
>> feel? A simple test script resulted in something motif-like, even
>> though according to Wikipedia Tcl/Tk 8 and above should use the
>> "native" look & feel, which in this particular case is KDE4.
> More recently, there's "ttk", which is a re-do of Tk. I'm afraid I
> haven't used it much, but it's apparently supposed to make that sort of
> thing much easier.
Looks like the way to go: It's apparently a re-do of the traditional Tk
widgets, with a framework to implement custom styles, which may or may
not be implemented using "native" GUI widgets. Unfortunately, while
there seems to exist a Qt style (TileQt), I can't get that one to
compile for some obscure reason.
Well, I'm trying for qtcl now.
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Ah well - apparently Tcl with Tk 8.5 is the way for me to go: Readily
available for my Linux (openSUSE) machine, including some
can-do-all-you'll-ever-need table widget (Tktable), support for widget
themes (via the Ttk package), and sqlite3 (via the sqlite3 package); to
my pleasant surprise, the same functionality is available "ready to
rock" for Windows as well (via ActiveTcl); and the language is ugly as
hell - so all in all it's pretty much the right stuff for me...
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Tool of choice for lighteweight Linux GUI tools
Date: 20 Nov 2009 08:36:15
Message: <4b069b4f$1@news.povray.org>
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clipka wrote:
> and the language is ugly as
> hell - so all in all it's pretty much the right stuff for me...
You are a sick, sick person, you know that? ;-)
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Invisible schrieb:
> clipka wrote:
>> and the language is ugly as hell - so all in all it's pretty much the
>> right stuff for me...
>
> You are a sick, sick person, you know that? ;-)
Absolutely! :-)
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Tool of choice for lighteweight Linux GUI tools
Date: 20 Nov 2009 10:11:13
Message: <4b06b191@news.povray.org>
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>> You are a sick, sick person, you know that? ;-)
>
> Absolutely! :-)
Oh, OK then. Just so long as you know... :-)
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Tool of choice for lighteweight Linux GUI tools
Date: 20 Nov 2009 13:14:52
Message: <4b06dc9c$1@news.povray.org>
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clipka wrote:
> Ah well - apparently Tcl with Tk 8.5 is the way for me to go: Readily
> available for my Linux (openSUSE) machine, including some
> can-do-all-you'll-ever-need table widget (Tktable), support for widget
> themes (via the Ttk package), and sqlite3 (via the sqlite3 package); to
> my pleasant surprise, the same functionality is available "ready to
> rock" for Windows as well (via ActiveTcl); and the language is ugly as
> hell - so all in all it's pretty much the right stuff for me...
Note that you can get the free version of everything from ActiveTcl if you
like. The language isn't *too* ugly. It's just not all complex syntax infix
stuff. Read the twelve (now 13?) rules of syntax, and believe them. The
way to understand the syntax is to realize the program never looks at the
same character twice while parsing - i.e., it never ever backs up during
parsing.
There's a lot of other good packages, too, and it's pretty trivial to write
extensions that would let you (for example) run a program and collect the
child runtimes, if [exec] doesn't already do that.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Is God willing to prevent naglams, but unable?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing, to prevent naglams?
Then he is malevolent.
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good choice.
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Darren New schrieb:
>> to my pleasant surprise, the same functionality is available "ready to
>> rock" for Windows as well (via ActiveTcl); and the language is ugly as
>> hell - so all in all it's pretty much the right stuff for me...
>
> Note that you can get the free version of everything from ActiveTcl if
> you like.
Guess why I mentioned it... ;-)
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Tool of choice for lighteweight Linux GUI tools
Date: 20 Nov 2009 20:03:42
Message: <4b073c6e$1@news.povray.org>
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clipka wrote:
> Darren New schrieb:
>
>>> to my pleasant surprise, the same functionality is available "ready
>>> to rock" for Windows as well (via ActiveTcl); and the language is
>>> ugly as hell - so all in all it's pretty much the right stuff for me...
>>
>> Note that you can get the free version of everything from ActiveTcl if
>> you like.
>
> Guess why I mentioned it... ;-)
Sure. I was just pointing out that they do a not-too-shabby job of obscuring
the link to the for-free versions of stuff. :-) Not as bad as some, but
they do give you the whole package for free.
Incidentally, be aware there's a bug in the Teacup code that keeps it from
properly replacing the teacup code on Vista. I.e., "teacup update-self" will
hang with the command window open until you type the command that it was
supposed to run. I'm not sure why.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Is God willing to prevent naglams, but unable?
Then he is not omnipotent.
Is he able, but not willing, to prevent naglams?
Then he is malevolent.
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Darren New schrieb:
> Sure. I was just pointing out that they do a not-too-shabby job of
> obscuring the link to the for-free versions of stuff. :-) Not as bad as
> some, but they do give you the whole package for free.
Well, I went in there via one of the vectors you posted here, and it was
plain obvious there.
Thanks again for the links, they proved valuable resource.
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