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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 14:33:07 -0500, Warp wrote:
> Is this somehow different there (wherever it might be)? Is it that
> there
> aren't any computer hardware stores nearby and you have to buy them
> remotely and get them by mail or something? Or is it that stores don't
> have hardware in stock, they just order them on demand?
It's generally cheaper in the US at least to buy online. Many places
waive shipping charges for "basic" shipping over a certain amount and
don't charge sales tax if they're out of state.
Jim
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Warp schrieb:
>
> Unrelated, but I have been starting to wonder about that.
>
> Here if I want to buy a piece of hardware, I go to the store and buy it.
> That's it.
>
> However, I have seen tons and tons of people use that exact expression,
> ie. "ordered <piece of hardware>, will arrive in <some amount of> days".
>
> Is this somehow different there (wherever it might be)? Is it that there
> aren't any computer hardware stores nearby and you have to buy them
> remotely and get them by mail or something? Or is it that stores don't
> have hardware in stock, they just order them on demand?
I guess it depends on how picky you are.
If all you want is "a new 2TB hard drive", go out and get it.
If you want a Seagate ST-FOO-23XUELX32-B, and no, the other brand's
equivalent won't do, then you'll probably need to wait.
It also probably depends on whether you want the cheapest, in which case
you'll probably end up buying on the internet, at some company that
doesn't have to pay people to personally greet, help and/or keep an eye
on you.
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>> Ah yes, but under Windoze all programs insist on being installed on C:
>> ;-)
>
> ... if you let them, yes :-P
Now, the *properly designed* products allow you to select some other
destination with no ill effects. But all those other programs? Some of
them won't let you choose at all. Others will let you choose, but never
the less fail if you choose somewhere different. (WTF?)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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> I occasionally hear a fighter jet come overhead and then hear my garage
> door opening.
Wait - your garage door can open by itself?
Man, if we want to open ours, we have to use *muscle power*. ;-)
Top Gun, indeed.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> It's generally cheaper in the US at least to buy online.
If you go to a shop, they have to pay for spotty teenagers to loaf
around all day pretending to serve customers. People to sweep the
floors. Rent on the building. Electricity rates. And so on.
If you run an Internet shop, you just put a server onto the Internet and
wait for your bank balance to start increasing. Sure, you gotta pay for
electricity and Internet bandwidth. I'm guessing even at £25,000/year,
Internet bandwidth is a lot cheaper than having 25 staff standing around...
...yeah, shopping online tends to be cheaper. Quality is another matter,
of course.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Warp wrote:
> Is this somehow different there (wherever it might be)? Is it that there
> aren't any computer hardware stores nearby and you have to buy them
> remotely and get them by mail or something? Or is it that stores don't
> have hardware in stock, they just order them on demand?
Hermit. Rarely go outside. Have no car, and no tech stores in
(convenient) walking distance.
Also retail stores cost more for the same item in general, plus can shop
around easily online and quickly compare prices and get the cheapest one
of a particular product.
--
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.freesitespace.net
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Invisible wrote:
> Ah yes, but under Windoze all programs insist on being installed on C: ;-)
Everything I have installed in programs or windows fits in 40G. And that
includes bunches of .NET, office, photo programs, etc etc etc.
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".
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On 11/09/09 10:55, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>> guess there isn't a convenient modality for backing up 500GB of data?
>>>> There is - but not for sane prices, no.
>>> A 1.5 GB SATA Seagate Barracuda drive costs a mere $95 from newegg.
>>>
>>> I guess that arguably is an insane price - insanely cheap.
>> Sounds insanely expensive to me. Even for a USB flash drive...
>
> Yeah, now if I had written TB instead of GB (which is what I meant to
> write), that changes the dynamic a little bit. ;-)
$95 to get tuberculosis from a fish? I still say it's expensive.
--
Engineers: often wrong, seldom in doubt.
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On 11/09/09 13:33, Warp wrote:
> Is this somehow different there (wherever it might be)? Is it that there
> aren't any computer hardware stores nearby and you have to buy them
> remotely and get them by mail or something? Or is it that stores don't
> have hardware in stock, they just order them on demand?
Don't know how the dynamics work out in Europe, with there being
different countries, etc.
Over here, stores can't compete with online retailers when it comes to
prices. And as has been mentioned, if the online retailer isn't
physically in your state, you don't pay sales tax.
A physical store can only serve the people in your area. An online
store serves the whole country. When n gets large, it's easier to
predict and manage the volume. A physical store may simply not stock up
on items rarely sold, whereas an Internet store (particularly a well
known one) is guaranteed that same item will be sold often (because the
whole country is now the market).
Despite all this, most people I know will buy electronics locally.
Geeks are particular, and want to save money, and think it's geeky to
optimize for money. So they're more likely to buy online. Since you
mostly interact with geeks from other countries, you're suffering from
observation bias.
--
Engineers: often wrong, seldom in doubt.
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 16:28:36 -0600, Neeum Zawan wrote:
> On 11/09/09 10:55, Jim Henderson wrote:
>>>>>> guess there isn't a convenient modality for backing up 500GB of
>>>>>> data?
>>>>> There is - but not for sane prices, no.
>>>> A 1.5 GB SATA Seagate Barracuda drive costs a mere $95 from newegg.
>>>>
>>>> I guess that arguably is an insane price - insanely cheap.
>>> Sounds insanely expensive to me. Even for a USB flash drive...
>>
>> Yeah, now if I had written TB instead of GB (which is what I meant to
>> write), that changes the dynamic a little bit. ;-)
>
> $95 to get tuberculosis from a fish? I still say it's expensive.
LOL
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