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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 7 Nov 2009 13:43:10
Message: <4af5bfbd@news.povray.org>
clipka <ano### [at] anonymousorg> wrote:
> Warp schrieb:
> >   Another question:
> > 
> >   Is there a reason that 1 gallon is exactly 231 cubic inches? Was a gallon
> > first defined in terms of cubic inches? (And why such an arbitrary number
> > as 231?)
> > 
> >   Why no such round number with cubic feet? 1 gallon = 0.133680556 cubic feet.

> 231 cubic inch, actually.

  Isn't that what I said? Or are you saying that "cubic inches" is incorrect
and should instead be "cubic inch"?

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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 7 Nov 2009 14:01:52
Message: <4af5c420@news.povray.org>
Warp schrieb:

>>>   Is there a reason that 1 gallon is exactly 231 cubic inches? Was a gallon
>>> first defined in terms of cubic inches? (And why such an arbitrary number
>>> as 231?)
>>>
>>>   Why no such round number with cubic feet? 1 gallon = 0.133680556 cubic feet.
> 
>> 231 cubic inch, actually.
> 
>   Isn't that what I said? Or are you saying that "cubic inches" is incorrect
> and should instead be "cubic inch"?

No, I just shot first and read later :-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 8 Nov 2009 05:02:00
Message: <4af69718@news.povray.org>
Jeremy "UncleHoot" Praay wrote:

> I don't ever recall seeing it written that way, but yes, it's common for 
> metric units.  I often see "sq. ft.", "sqft", and "cu. ft."  But I don't 
> ever remember seeing ft^2 (superscript).
> 
> I actually wonder if that would confuse.
> e.g.
> "The area is about 100 feet square"
> "100 square feet?"
> "No, that would be 10,000 square feet."
> 
> I just wonder if writing it as "100 ft^2" could possibly be (mis)interpreted 
> that way. 
> 
> 
Yes, that was what I was taught all those years ago 100 ft^2 = 10000 sq ft.

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	Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 8 Nov 2009 05:10:14
Message: <4af69906$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   Another question:
> 
>   Is there a reason that 1 gallon is exactly 231 cubic inches? Was a gallon
> first defined in terms of cubic inches? (And why such an arbitrary number
> as 231?)
> 
>   Why no such round number with cubic feet? 1 gallon = 0.133680556 cubic feet.
> 

Remembering that I use imperial measures. One gallon of water was 
defined as weighing 10 lb of water at STP (Standard Temperature and 
Pressure).

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	Stephen


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 8 Nov 2009 05:13:04
Message: <4af699b0$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen schrieb:

>> I just wonder if writing it as "100 ft^2" could possibly be 
>> (mis)interpreted that way.
>>
> Yes, that was what I was taught all those years ago 100 ft^2 = 10000 sq ft.

Makes no sense to me; look:

     u = 1 ft
     100 u^2 = ?

With the power operation defined as binding stronger by convention, 
that's obviously = 100 sq ft.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 8 Nov 2009 05:23:53
Message: <4af69c39@news.povray.org>
clipka wrote:
> Stephen schrieb:
> 
>>> I just wonder if writing it as "100 ft^2" could possibly be 
>>> (mis)interpreted that way.
>>>
>> Yes, that was what I was taught all those years ago 100 ft^2 = 10000 
>> sq ft.
> 
> Makes no sense to me; look:
> 
>     u = 1 ft
>     100 u^2 = ?
> 
> With the power operation defined as binding stronger by convention, 
> that's obviously = 100 sq ft.


very common term the convention was to write 100 sq ft = 10 ft squared 
or 10 ft ^2.


Just think that 16 oz = 1 lb but 1 pint = 20 fluid ounces. Unless you 
are American then 1 pint = 16 fluid ounces.


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	Stephen


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 8 Nov 2009 07:35:01
Message: <web.4af6baae6b2fafbc34d207310@news.povray.org>
"Jeremy \"UncleHoot\" Praay" <jer### [at] questsoftwarecmo> wrote:
>
> I just wonder if writing it as "100 ft^2" could possibly be (mis)interpreted
> that way.


In verbal conversation with non-engineers, who knows.  In engineering notation,
no.  I'm old enough to have had my co-op (intern) experience with a firm that
worked and thought exclusively in Imperial Units (I think back then they were so
arrogant as to call them Engineering Units). I was schooled exclusively in SI in
college.  I think once I was asked to perform an engineering calculation, and
made a mistake when I insisted on converting to SI first and then back to
British. That one group didn't ask me again.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 8 Nov 2009 13:51:42
Message: <4af7133e$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   How about imperial units. Can you write "square feet" as "ft^2" or
> something like that?

In a similar question, where you are, is "ten square meters" the same as 
"ten meters square"?

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:08:28
Message: <4af868ac@news.povray.org>
Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> >   How about imperial units. Can you write "square feet" as "ft^2" or
> > something like that?

> In a similar question, where you are, is "ten square meters" the same as 
> "ten meters square"?

  Never heard of anyone using "ten meters square". Doesn't even make much
sense.

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From: Doctor John
Subject: Re: Question about imperial units
Date: 9 Nov 2009 14:24:34
Message: <4af86c72@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>>   How about imperial units. Can you write "square feet" as "ft^2" or
>>> something like that?
> 
>> In a similar question, where you are, is "ten square meters" the same as 
>> "ten meters square"?
> 
>   Never heard of anyone using "ten meters square". Doesn't even make much
> sense.
> 
Sure it does. Ten square metres is an area of two metres by five metres,
an area ten metres square is ten by ten = 100 m^2

John
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