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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 09:37:37
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http://xkcd.com/657/
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 11:27:08
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Mike Raiford wrote:
> http://xkcd.com/657/
http://www.terminally-incoherent.com.nyud.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/primer_timeline.jpg
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 11:30:14
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WTF is Primer, and is anybody supposed to actually understand it?
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From: Kyle
Subject: Re: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 11:58:23
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Invisible wrote:
> WTF is Primer, and is anybody supposed to actually understand it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primer_%28film%29
GIYF. I had to Google it myself. After reading the wiki page and
reviewing the time travel diagram, I now want to see it.
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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 12:41:34
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Kyle wrote:
> GIYF. I had to Google it myself. After reading the wiki page and
> reviewing the time travel diagram, I now want to see it.
My primary complaint is that either the director tried to make it
"realistic" or he didn't hire trained actors. Hence, there are situations
where if you were there it would be easy to understand, but since you're
behind a camera with no audio direction clues, you can't understand the
dialog or what's happening. The whole thing gave me the impression of
lacking auditory "peripheral vision." People talk over each other, respond
to people they can hear but you can't see and hence can't easily tell who
they're talking to, minor characters show up for 20 minutes at the start and
then disappear, major characters come out of "nowhere" doing things that
would make sense if they really were your father-in-law but are hard to
understand because the audience never met them before and the audience isn't
told until much later it's the father-in-law, etc.
I think at least half the confusion is that sort of stuff, rather than the
actual time-travel paradox. I think. But since lots of confusion happens
even before they invent the time-travel stuff, I have to assume it wasn't
just me. :-)
If you like this, also check out Time Crimes. And if you like other
mind-games, check out eXistanZ. (which may be spelled wrong there.)
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Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 13:10:31
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rr com> wrote:
> If you like this, also check out Time Crimes. And if you like other
> mind-games, check out eXistanZ. (which may be spelled wrong there.)
I suppose Memento could qualify, even though that one is actually
comprehensible on the first view, if you pay attention. (It's also a
professional high-budget production, and thus of higher technical quality.)
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From: Neeum Zawan
Subject: Re: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 14:08:12
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On 11/02/09 10:30, Invisible wrote:
> WTF is Primer, and is anybody supposed to actually understand it?
It'd be a pretty poor primer if most didn't.
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Warp schrieb:
> I suppose Memento could qualify, even though that one is actually
> comprehensible on the first view, if you pay attention. (It's also a
> professional high-budget production, and thus of higher technical quality.)
Yeah, I was reminded of that one, too.
(Fun facts to know: The DVD (or at least some DVD version) features a
"forward" version of the movie as a hidden gimmick.)
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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 15:33:10
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Kyle wrote:
> GIYF. I had to Google it myself. After reading the wiki page and
> reviewing the time travel diagram, I now want to see it.
Wait, back up there. It's a film with time travel in it?
...OK, won't be watching that then.
Unfortunately, writers typically add time travel when they run out of
good ideas. The only exception I'm aware of is Back To The Future, which
is actually awesome.
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: The graph for Primer is pretty darn acurate...
Date: 2 Nov 2009 15:40:29
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> Kyle wrote:
> > GIYF. I had to Google it myself. After reading the wiki page and
> > reviewing the time travel diagram, I now want to see it.
> Wait, back up there. It's a film with time travel in it?
> ...OK, won't be watching that then.
> Unfortunately, writers typically add time travel when they run out of
> good ideas. The only exception I'm aware of is Back To The Future, which
> is actually awesome.
You haven't seen Primer. It's not time-travel-because-we-ran-out-of-ideas.
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