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From: Chambers
Subject: 2012
Date: 18 Oct 2009 16:34:28
Message: <4adb7bd4$1@news.povray.org>
From the trailer: "The Mayan calendar predicts the end of time in 2012."

NO IT DOESN'T!!!

I don't know if the new trailers still say this, but the first trailers 
originally suggested that the viewer "Google 2012".  Well, the first hit 
is for the movie, the second hit is for the Wikipedia article which 
states: "The idea of a global event occurring in 2012 based on any 
interpretation of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar is rejected as 
pseudoscience by the scientific community, and as misrepresentative of 
Maya history by Mayanist scholars."

Words cannot describe how much this particular movie annoys me.  I just 
hope it's not another Adam & Eve one.

...Chambers


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 18 Oct 2009 16:40:35
Message: <4adb7d43@news.povray.org>
Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Words cannot describe how much this particular movie annoys me.

  I think it's a bad idea to detest a movie without having seen it. Or even
before it has been released in the first place.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 18 Oct 2009 17:41:10
Message: <4adb8b76$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Words cannot describe how much this particular movie annoys me.
> 
>   I think it's a bad idea to detest a movie without having seen it. Or even
> before it has been released in the first place.

It definitely looks like fine disaster-porn.

I don't think the Mayan calendar predicted anything for 2012 different than 
the Roman calendar predicted for the year 2000.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 18 Oct 2009 18:47:32
Message: <4adb9b04$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers wrote:
>  From the trailer: "The Mayan calendar predicts the end of time in 2012."
> 
> NO IT DOESN'T!!!

It is a common urban legend roaming around in the latest few years. 
Never heard of it?  The movie is very obviously building up on it and 
dismissing it now surely is not wise.  And surely it's just a simple 
premise for yet another blockbuster bang with lots of explosions and 
special effects.


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 18 Oct 2009 18:52:49
Message: <4adb9c41@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> Words cannot describe how much this particular movie annoys me.
>>
>>   I think it's a bad idea to detest a movie without having seen it. Or 
>> even
>> before it has been released in the first place.
> 
> It definitely looks like fine disaster-porn.

The nicest disaster-porn I ever watched was one humorous Nike ad playing 
with the fear for the y2k bug. :)

ah, here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhF7dQl4Ico

pure genius.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 18 Oct 2009 19:15:17
Message: <4adba185$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhF7dQl4Ico
> pure genius.

Very funny.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Chambers
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 18 Oct 2009 23:37:23
Message: <4adbdef3$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Words cannot describe how much this particular movie annoys me.
> 
>   I think it's a bad idea to detest a movie without having seen it. Or even
> before it has been released in the first place.
> 

OK, good point.  Allow me to clarify: it's the IDEA that annoys me, and 
not the movie per se.

The reason being that the idea is supposedly based on Mayan beliefs, but 
5 minutes of research will show that the idea is flawed.

Now, if they wanted to make a movie about the end of the world, and just 
said, "It's the end of the world!" then I wouldn't mind.  But basing a 
disaster movie on 2012 is akin to basing a Sci Fi movie on the idea that 
1+1=yellow.

Unfortunately, it's annoying enough that I probably won't be able to 
enjoy the movie at all.

...Chambers


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 19 Oct 2009 03:13:04
Message: <4adc1180$1@news.povray.org>
Chambers schrieb:

> Now, if they wanted to make a movie about the end of the world, and just 
> said, "It's the end of the world!" then I wouldn't mind.  But basing a 
> disaster movie on 2012 is akin to basing a Sci Fi movie on the idea that 
> 1+1=yellow.

As any serious Douglas Adams fan knows, this formula is wrong; instead, 
the correct formula is:

   3+2 = a suffusion of yellow

:-)


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 19 Oct 2009 04:24:37
Message: <4adc2245@news.povray.org>
nemesis <nam### [at] nospam-gmailcom> wrote:
> The nicest disaster-porn I ever watched was one humorous Nike ad playing 
> with the fear for the y2k bug. :)

> ah, here it is:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhF7dQl4Ico

  I'm sure some people honestly thought 1.1.2000 would be like that.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: 2012
Date: 19 Oct 2009 04:26:28
Message: <4adc22b4@news.povray.org>
Chambers <Ben### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> OK, good point.  Allow me to clarify: it's the IDEA that annoys me, and 
> not the movie per se.

> The reason being that the idea is supposedly based on Mayan beliefs, but 
> 5 minutes of research will show that the idea is flawed.

  Why? Speculative fiction is all about "what if?"

  "What if the Mayan calendar really predicts the end of the world in 2012,
like some people believe, and that it will really happen?"

  If you always go with "hey, that's not true, that can't happen", then you
ruin most movies for yourself.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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