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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 19 Oct 2009 12:30:33
Message: <4adc9429@news.povray.org>
I read recently in Scientific American about quantum technology being 
used in encryption. Basically the idea is that the individual particles 
used in the transmission signal are charged or spun at the quantum level 
in such a way (without affecting the data itself) that the signal can't 
be intercepted or examined without corrupting this charge or spin and 
marking the signal as compromised. This got me thinking as to whether an 
arbitrary pattern of electrons or light (i.e. an audio file being 
transmitted or stored on a medium) could be "tagged" at the quantum 
level, thus making it unreadable without proper hardware (or at least 
the correct key) and making it useful for DRM purposes. Since the data 
itself does not change (just some normally ignored/discarded 
characteristics of the transmission signal), it would not affect the 
size or performance of the DRM encoded data.

Here's the link:

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swiss-test-quantum-cryptography

Mike


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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 19 Oct 2009 12:38:52
Message: <4adc961c$1@news.povray.org>
On 10/19/2009 12:30 PM, SharkD wrote:
> I read recently in Scientific American about quantum technology being
> used in encryption. Basically the idea is that the individual particles
> used in the transmission signal are charged or spun at the quantum level
> in such a way (without affecting the data itself) that the signal can't
> be intercepted or examined without corrupting this charge or spin and
> marking the signal as compromised. This got me thinking as to whether an
> arbitrary pattern of electrons or light (i.e. an audio file being
> transmitted or stored on a medium) could be "tagged" at the quantum
> level, thus making it unreadable without proper hardware (or at least
> the correct key) and making it useful for DRM purposes. Since the data
> itself does not change (just some normally ignored/discarded
> characteristics of the transmission signal), it would not affect the
> size or performance of the DRM encoded data.
>
> Here's the link:
>
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=swiss-test-quantum-cryptography
>
>
> Mike

Of course, if quantum computing were to ever emerge as a viable 
technology, this would no longer work since the technique "piggy-backs" 
upon existing technology.

Mike


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 19 Oct 2009 12:59:55
Message: <4adc9b0b$1@news.povray.org>
scott wrote:
> I'd disagree with that, in fact it's almost the opposite.  IME OSS seems 
> to be driven by individual developers doing whatever they feel like 
> doing whenever they feel like it, they have no requirement to implement 
> certain features or to be ready by a certain date.

There are different kinds of OSS.

Something like GCC or emacs (or POV) is going to be driven by developers who 
need their tools.

Something like Open Office is written by a company that doesn't really do 
software for a living, but instead wants to undercut the software of a 
competitor. In this case, Sun trying to sell Sparcstations without Microsoft 
eating their lunch.

Something like Blender is software that was originally in-house until the 
developers thought it would be more valuable to make it open source, 
primarily because their business changed. (In this case, their business 
changed to "out of business", but other changes work too.)

> Users benefit from DRM by getting the same product for cheaper, it's 
> just most don't realise this.

That's the assumption. I am not sure one can tell if it's right or not.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 19 Oct 2009 13:03:08
Message: <4adc9bcc$1@news.povray.org>
SharkD wrote:
> could be "tagged" at the quantum level, 

Answer: No. :-)

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 19 Oct 2009 13:19:30
Message: <4adc9fa2$1@news.povray.org>
SharkD wrote:
> Of course, if quantum computing were to ever emerge as a viable 
> technology, this would no longer work since the technique "piggy-backs" 
> upon existing technology.

The quantum encryption would continue to work fine. You can't *store* 
quantum keys. That's the whole point that makes quantum cryptography work. 
Therefore Quantum DRM is not going to happen, at least not using the same 
techniques as quantum cryptography.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 19 Oct 2009 14:18:57
Message: <4adcad91@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> I use grip myself. :-)

Heh, there's got to be a joke in there somewhere...

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 19 Oct 2009 15:42:28
Message: <4adcc124$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 19:19:00 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> I use grip myself. :-)
> 
> Heh, there's got to be a joke in there somewhere...

There probably is - I'm just waiting for you to find it. ;-)

Jim


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From: SharkD
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 19 Oct 2009 23:56:18
Message: <4add34e2@news.povray.org>
On 10/19/2009 10:59 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
> You haven't answered my question about what your point is.....I'm still
> waiting.
>
> Jim

You'll just have to remain mystified.

Mike


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Open source software is always stable
Date: 20 Oct 2009 00:01:55
Message: <4add3633$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:56:20 -0400, SharkD wrote:

> On 10/19/2009 10:59 AM, Jim Henderson wrote:
>> You haven't answered my question about what your point is.....I'm still
>> waiting.
>>
>> Jim
> 
> You'll just have to remain mystified.

I shan't waste any more time on it then, if you can't be bothered to 
communicate clearly, it's your loss. :-)

Jim


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