Darren New wrote:
> Saul Luizaga wrote:
>> This is just what I needed, thanks, I'm taking English classes, 
> 
> Congrats. I have a terrible time with foreign languages. I had to cheat 
> to even pass French class in high school. (altho I was surprised how 
> much came back to me 30 years later when I visited France.)
> 

Then you are not far from understanding Spanish, French is a brother of 
Spanish and AFAIK also English, having relatively common origin.

You have a good memory then.

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TC wrote:
> After trying to get my tongue untangled,
> 
> (which out of my mouth now dangled),
> 
> On to YouTube did I hie,
> 
> And behold, there did espy:
> 
> A young maiden, bright and fair,
> 
> With golden shimmer in her hair,
> 
> Undauntedly she offered battle,
> 
> Against the poem she'd test her mettle,
> 
> And victorious she has been,
> 
> A true pronunciation queen.
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1spqX4sIDo
> 
> 
> 

In deed very good, and is more help to me, thanks.

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Saul Luizaga schrieb:

> Then you are not far from understanding Spanish, French is a brother of 
> Spanish and AFAIK also English, having relatively common origin.

Well, /part/ of English is a brother to French; some other part is 
brother to German, and yet some other is brother to Danish, Irish or Welsh.

The British Isles, despite their geographic isolation, have had their 
share of (successful) invasions and occupations, making English a 
hodgepodge of languages: To the originally Celtic-speaking population 
(being the root of Welsh and Breton), the Romans brought Latin, the 
Angles, Saxons and Jutes contributed Germanic languages, the Scots 
(which were originally of Irish origin) added Gaelic, the Danes brought 
another Germanic language, and the Normans introduced French. It appears 
that it was not until medieval times that English became anything close 
to a stable language.

Western (left of the Rhine) and mediterranean continental Europe, on the 
other hand, saw a long Roman occupation, leaving a strong Latin 
footprint in all the languages, that dominates over all the other 
influences these languages have assimilated over time (be it Germanic 
languages in France and Spain during the Migration Period, or Arabic in 
Spain during Moorish occupation, or the original native languages spoken 
before the Roman occupation).

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Interesting, I knew little about it but this clarifies things, thanks.

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt

  Sedulously eschew obfuscatory and tautologous hyperverbosity, prolixity
and sesquipedalian loquaciousness, espouse elucidation.

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt
> 
>   Sedulously eschew obfuscatory and tautologous hyperverbosity, prolixity
> and sesquipedalian loquaciousness, espouse elucidation.
> 

I actually know what most of those words mean. Other than prolixity and 
sedulously.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".

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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> >> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt
> > 
> >   Sedulously eschew obfuscatory and tautologous hyperverbosity, prolixity
> > and sesquipedalian loquaciousness, espouse elucidation.
> > 

> I actually know what most of those words mean. Other than prolixity and 
> sedulously.

  I also assume that, unlike me, you know how to pronounce all those words?-)

-- 
                                                          - Warp

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>>> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt
>>>   Sedulously eschew obfuscatory and tautologous hyperverbosity, prolixity
>>> and sesquipedalian loquaciousness, espouse elucidation.
>>>
> 
>> I actually know what most of those words mean. Other than prolixity and 
>> sedulously.
> 
>   I also assume that, unlike me, you know how to pronounce all those words?-)
> 

Indubitably ;)

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Best Regards,
	Stephen

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Warp wrote:
>   I also assume that, unlike me, you know how to pronounce all those words?-)

I think so. Oddly enough, the really long words are the ones with obvious 
pronunciation. Probably because nobody pronounces them without having 
consciously learned how to pronounce them. (Modulo spelling quirks like 
"psychology" coming from greek letters and such.) While they're not easy to 
pronounce, they are pronounced how a native speaker would expect from the 
spelling.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   I ordered stamps from Zazzle that read "Place Stamp Here".

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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> http://phd.pp.ru/Texts/fun/english-poem.txt
> 
>   Sedulously eschew obfuscatory and tautologous hyperverbosity, prolixity
> and sesquipedalian loquaciousness, espouse elucidation.
> 
damn...

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