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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 6 Oct 2009 19:05:01
Message: <4acbcd1d$1@news.povray.org>
andrel wrote:
> I assume you meant 'a character set' in stead of 'computers'?

I'm assuming the complaint is that the Dutch adopted ASCII for their 
computers. If it bothers you, don't do that. ;-)

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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 03:14:38
Message: <bufoc5h47rk2judgi8ete5pid92b2g500o@4ax.com>
On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:38:02 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:

>andrel wrote:
>> another example of how the Americans have destroyed a culture.
>
>Hey, you want to be able to spell properly, *you* invent computers. ;-)

Now here's me thinking that it was the Brits who invented the first modern
(programmable) computer. With the Bombe being built at Bletchley Park.
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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 04:19:14
Message: <4acc4f02@news.povray.org>
>> Dikjstra's shunting algorithm
> 
> Why don't you learn that Dijkstra is with an 'ij' that is a single vowel 
> in Dutch and actually should be a ligature in print, but this is just 
> another example of how the Americans have destroyed a culture.

...he was Dutch?

Well, THAT explains why the hell I can't even say his name out loud, 
never mind spell it. :-P

Apparently he was quite clever though. I only know about him because he 
apparently invented an algorithm for turning a series of expression 
tokens into an actual expression tree...


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 04:20:45
Message: <4acc4f5d$1@news.povray.org>
>> Hey, you want to be able to spell properly, *you* invent computers. ;-)
> 
> Now here's me thinking that it was the Brits who invented the first modern
> (programmable) computer. With the Bombe being built at Bletchley Park.

Likewise. It's just down the road from me.

But then, the programmable computer is one invention which really can't 
be geniunely said to have been "invented" by just one person. This one 
was actually down to many, many great minds.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 07:53:59
Message: <opvoc5tqfo8hhlhd8dd94mcsman3rs2085@4ax.com>
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 09:20:44 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>> Now here's me thinking that it was the Brits who invented the first modern
>> (programmable) computer. With the Bombe being built at Bletchley Park.
>
>Likewise. It's just down the road from me.

There! It is now true.

I remember seeing a machine in Paisley museum that used recognisable punch cards
(IIRC about 18" X 24") from the 19th Century. Its output was woven cloth. So (as
usual) we Scots were there first (if you don't count the Chinese, who did
everything first). :P
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     Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 08:15:48
Message: <4acc8674@news.povray.org>
> There! It is now true.
> 
> I remember seeing a machine in Paisley museum that used recognisable punch cards
> (IIRC about 18" X 24") from the 19th Century. Its output was woven cloth. So (as
> usual) we Scots were there first (if you don't count the Chinese, who did
> everything first). :P

That's nothing. A few months back, I went to the London Science Museum 
and say half of Babbage's *brain* in a pickling jar. o_O


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 11:15:17
Message: <4accb085$1@news.povray.org>
Stephen wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:38:02 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> 
>> andrel wrote:
>>> another example of how the Americans have destroyed a culture.
>> Hey, you want to be able to spell properly, *you* invent computers. ;-)
> 
> Now here's me thinking that it was the Brits who invented the first modern
> (programmable) computer. With the Bombe being built at Bletchley Park.

And what language do you think the *Brits* speak?  Hint: Not Dutch. ;-)

While the Brits invented the first computers, I'm pretty sure the whole text 
processing aspect (and in particular the ASCII I'm guessing you're 
complaining about) was happening in the USA.  Not that EBCDIC had an ij 
ligature in it either.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 14:27:23
Message: <4accdd8b$1@news.povray.org>
>> David Jones. (Yes, that was his name.)
>>
>> He was one of the lecturers at college.
> 
> Wait - is that "David Jones" as in "David E.H. Jones", aka "Daedalus"?

No. David K. Jones. Sorry.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 15:52:33
Message: <dbspc5lfl5nu9oojaqisjpealoetf9n36e@4ax.com>
On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 13:15:48 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>> There! It is now true.
>> 
>> I remember seeing a machine in Paisley museum that used recognisable punch cards
>> (IIRC about 18" X 24") from the 19th Century. Its output was woven cloth. So (as
>> usual) we Scots were there first (if you don't count the Chinese, who did
>> everything first). :P
>
>That's nothing. A few months back, I went to the London Science Museum 
>and say half of Babbage's *brain* in a pickling jar. o_O

Yum, yum ;)
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     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Today's XKCD ..
Date: 7 Oct 2009 16:01:20
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On Wed, 07 Oct 2009 08:15:16 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:

>
>And what language do you think the *Brits* speak?  Hint: Not Dutch. ;-)
>

Nor American :P


>While the Brits invented the first computers, I'm pretty sure the whole text 
>processing aspect (and in particular the ASCII I'm guessing you're 
>complaining about) was happening in the USA.  Not that EBCDIC had an ij 
>ligature in it either.

Sorry Darren I'm just "pulling your plonker" ;)
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     Stephen


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