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Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Nope. Gotta have it towed to the dealer, probably to replace the
>> ignition switch cylinder. The car is 10 years old, and things wear out.
>
> I've never heard of this, unless you've broken off the key in the
> switch, and my dad was an auto mechanic for 30+ years...
>
> In the "is it turned on, is it plugged in" category, do you have a
> locking steering wheel? If so, try turning the wheel a bit. Is the car
> securely in parking gear? Almost always when I get stuck, it's one of
> those two things.
>
That happens quite often with both of my motor bikes. Not the key
getting stuck, though that has occurred, but the steering lock getting
an attitude. I think it comes from the cylinder being mounted
vertically, which is just bad design.
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 13:01:24 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 20 Sep 2009 07:53:40 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>
>>Indeed. I might go down to the auto parts store today and see if they
>>have what I need and can walk me through the installation.
>>
> Sounds like a plan :D
Assuming I can stay awake long enough....And the auto parts store is open
today.
>>> If no one speaks out ? :)
>>
>>Exactly what I thought.
>>
> Right!
It seems I'm not alone in thinking that way, either. The question is
whether those "up top" will consider the input in the spirit it is given
or just receive it as feedback saying "we didn't sell this idea well
enough".
>>Well, yeah, same thing here as well (I had to have a background security
>>check before being employed by Novell since we deal with export-
>>controlled software), but I meant that getting them when needed tends to
>>be a problem. And of course getting turned down can be a severe career
>>limiting move, since that shows up in the next background check....
>>
> We don't want to get two only semi related things mixed up. Personally I
> can't see any reason why I shouldn't get clearance, it's not very high.
> But it is talking the SAP security guys into understanding the situation
> in a way that doesn't put their backs up. The very tight timeline and
> fixed price budget is a concern.
Yeah, that also makes things difficult, when you have to play politics so
people get get defensive....
>>>>> Anyway night, night :)
>>>>
>>>>Eventually, 4 AM here now.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow's Sunday, no work. :)
>>
>>Heh, I wish. I seem to be saying that a lot today. Gathering
>>statistics and my thoughts for a discussion this coming week. Finally
>>starting to get tired, almost 6 AM now...
>>
>>
> One o'clock here. -_-
amazing, 1:30 PM here now. ;-)
Jim
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 09:42:24 -0700, Darren New wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Nope. Gotta have it towed to the dealer, probably to replace the
>> ignition switch cylinder. The car is 10 years old, and things wear
>> out.
>
> I've never heard of this, unless you've broken off the key in the
> switch, and my dad was an auto mechanic for 30+ years...
My wife's father (whom we called) has worked on cars for 50-ish years; he
said the replacement cost cost between $100 and $800 - he's done a few
himself over the years - but not enough to know off the top of his head
how much it might cost to replace.
Doing a search online, it seems that there is a particular issue with
some Saturn models where this can happen. Seems not uncommon in the Ion,
for example.
> In the "is it turned on, is it plugged in" category, do you have a
> locking steering wheel? If so, try turning the wheel a bit. Is the car
> securely in parking gear? Almost always when I get stuck, it's one of
> those two things.
Those are all things we tried - the steering wheel locks, but only when
the key is in the "lock" position (when it can normally be removed). The
wheel turns freely (but with difficulty because the vehicle is stationary
and the power steering isn't engaged). Tried shifting in and out of park
several times, pushing hard (I've run into that one as well). No dice.
We also tried bouncing the steering column with the tilt lever, and that
didn't do it either. The cylinder is just locked solid, as if the key
was the wrong key for the car.
Except that it is the right key for the car. John (my FIL) said that as
old as our car is (10 years now), a little wear on the key or the lock
mechanism could cause this, but he seemed to think it was more likely
that one of the pins in the lock had either worn down.
The locksmith I talked to on the phone said that there's a clip and he's
seen that clip break, causing the same issue; he also said that he was
not equipped to deal with that particular problem.
Jim
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 08:05:19 -0400, SharkD wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
>> Not a bad idea; I have it sitting in front of my monitor right now, and
>> have used it on my lap even (which was actually quite comfortable) - so
>> maybe something where I could store it under the desk surface would do
>> the trick.
>>
>> Jim
>
> Another option is one of those little laptop stands, like these:
>
> http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=laptop
+table&gbv=2&aq=f&oq=&aqi=g2
Perhaps. Space is a little tight here...
Jim
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On 20 Sep 2009 15:31:46 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>> Sounds like a plan :D
>
>Assuming I can stay awake long enough....And the auto parts store is open
>today.
>
On the Sabbath? :)
>
>It seems I'm not alone in thinking that way, either. The question is
>whether those "up top" will consider the input in the spirit it is given
>or just receive it as feedback saying "we didn't sell this idea well
>enough".
>
Indeed!
>
>Yeah, that also makes things difficult, when you have to play politics so
>people get get defensive....
>
That's life :)
>>>statistics and my thoughts for a discussion this coming week. Finally
>>>starting to get tired, almost 6 AM now...
>>>
>>>
>> One o'clock here. -_-
>
>amazing, 1:30 PM here now. ;-)
>
Gosh I travelled 200 miles north and it is 11pm.
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:24:42 -0400, Sabrina Kilian <ski### [at] vt edu> wrote:
>
>That happens quite often with both of my motor bikes. Not the key
>getting stuck, though that has occurred, but the steering lock getting
>an attitude. I think it comes from the cylinder being mounted
>vertically, which is just bad design.
Reminds me of the time when I was learning to ride and had just found out that
you could steer by banking rather than turning the handle bars, I rode about
three miles through the city only to find that I had the steering lock on when I
parked. Luckily I had put the lock on wrongly and could turn left and drive
straight but not turn the handlebars right.
I don't like to think of the times I killed myself. Thank god for parallel
universes :)
--
Regards
Stephen
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:59:43 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 20 Sep 2009 15:31:46 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>
>>> Sounds like a plan :D
>>
>>Assuming I can stay awake long enough....And the auto parts store is
>>open today.
>>
>>
> On the Sabbath? :)
Yeah, imagine that. Had a look at inventory in the two nearest stores,
though, and they don't have it. :-(
>>It seems I'm not alone in thinking that way, either. The question is
>>whether those "up top" will consider the input in the spirit it is given
>>or just receive it as feedback saying "we didn't sell this idea well
>>enough".
>>
> Indeed!
And, of course, if I can get to the office on Weds.
>>Yeah, that also makes things difficult, when you have to play politics
>>so people get get defensive....
>>
> That's life :)
That it is...
>>>>statistics and my thoughts for a discussion this coming week. Finally
>>>>starting to get tired, almost 6 AM now...
>>>>
>>> One o'clock here. -_-
>>
>>amazing, 1:30 PM here now. ;-)
>>
> Gosh I travelled 200 miles north and it is 11pm.
The slow and steady advance of time....
Jim
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On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:59:43 +0100, Stephen wrote:
>>Yeah, that also makes things difficult, when you have to play politics
>>so people get get defensive....
>>
>>
> That's life
Get get? Definitely tired here.... ;-)
Jim
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On 20 Sep 2009 18:21:16 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>>>>>starting to get tired, almost 6 AM now...
>>>>>
>>>> One o'clock here. -_-
>>>
>>>amazing, 1:30 PM here now. ;-)
>>>
>> Gosh I travelled 200 miles north and it is 11pm.
>
>The slow and steady advance of time....
Quarter to three and one fire alarm later. Joy!
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Stephen
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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:45:07 +0100, Stephen wrote:
> On 20 Sep 2009 18:21:16 -0400, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospam com> wrote:
>
>>>>>>starting to get tired, almost 6 AM now...
>>>>>>
>>>>> One o'clock here. -_-
>>>>
>>>>amazing, 1:30 PM here now. ;-)
>>>>
>>> Gosh I travelled 200 miles north and it is 11pm.
>>
>>The slow and steady advance of time....
>
> Quarter to three and one fire alarm later. Joy!
Oh, fun!
Jim
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